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That's awesome. Like he was really hoping for some dismal and dark exposé on "savage human nature" a la "Lord of the Flies", and at every turn, proven wrong by people who were happy to just get along and cooperate for mutual benefit...
... Which should come as a complete shock, social species that we are! /s
I think these desperately dark tales of people turning on each other in sociological contexts is another propaganda tool to put this idea in our heads that without "qualified leaders" we'd all just be grunting and beating each other over the head with rocks.
Nah, someone with something to gain has to motivate us to fight each other. What if we just said "lol, anyway" and kept getting along on the raft?
Sole problem left: there are those arseholes like the "leader" here actively trying to destroy every good thing. Fix that and we can have a wonderful society IMO.
Exactly my thoughts. The real cause of crime and violence in the abstract is inequality in the macro and social disorder in the micro.
Lord of the Flies was also a direct answer to a book that was really popular during England's colonial hey day(?) called the Island, I think.
Basically, English colonial culture wasn't as good as we might have thought.
That social bond doesn't scale and it is why have had to invent government, police, schools, hospitals, etc. The guy's idea was right (imo), he just had the wrong scale.
Catalonia during the Spanish Civil war did a good job of demonstrating that smaller communities could federate and work together cooperatively without a centralized hierarchical government.
https://kolektiva.media/w/pKgGZtPdpr8MBeMxNTQjGJ?start=35m23s