The implication that NATO bombing Libya's infrastructure into rubble, and decapitating its leadership might have left it lawless hellscape.

U.K. Parliament report details how NATO's 2011 war in Libya was based on lies

A new report by the British Parliament shows that the 2011 NATO war in Libya was based on an array of lies.

"Libya: Examination of intervention and collapse and the UK’s future policy options," an investigation by the House of Commons' bipartisan Foreign Affairs Committee, strongly condemns the U.K.'s role in the war, which toppled the government of Libya's leader Muammar Qaddafi and plunged the North African country into chaos.

"We have seen no evidence that the UK Government carried out a proper analysis of the nature of the rebellion in Libya," the report states. "UK strategy was founded on erroneous assumptions and an incomplete understanding of the evidence."

The Foreign Affairs Committee concludes that the British government "failed to identify that the threat to civilians was overstated and that the rebels included a significant Islamist element."

WEIRD!

https://www.telesurenglish.net/analysis/Libya-Before-and-After-Muammar-Gaddafi-20200115-0011.html

Obviously creating and supporting the conditions for a persistent power vacuum once Qaddafi was murdered isn’t great. But [...]

But I'm very skeptical that the regular people of Libya would be any better off today if that asshole were still alive

liberals and defending slavery, like a clock kek

Sounds a little bit like you're talking out of your ass and have no clue what Libya was like under Gaddafi in the first place.

You could voice a similar skepticism about the moral virtue of Saddam Hussein while still acknowledging that Iraq was immeasureably better off under his leadership than it was under the conditions the US led coalition created. The point of the post is that the conditions they are complaining about were created by (in part) the people complaining about it.

I think there's an argument to be made that leaders in the global south who are powerful enough to pursue an independent policy without caring that much about US and western interests incidentally create better conditions domestically because they don't sell their entire country's fate to global capitalism. I'm not sure what loudly denouncing a dead man accomplishes if you're going to to acknowledge that the conditions we created are manifestly causing the problem.

Obviously creating and supporting the conditions for a persistent power vacuum once Qaddafi was murdered isn't great. But I'm very skeptical that the regular people of Libya would be any better off today if that asshole were still alive and exploiting them with his cronies.

Very surprised you aren't being shouted down by now. Last time I mentioned that being oppositional to the US on certain geopolitical matters doesn't automatically make you a leftist icon, I was labeled as a lib.

Qaddafi was really good about dancing between the geopolitical left to the right depending on what he would personally gain from it. He was no martyr for the cause, nor did really care about anything but maintaining his control of the status quo.

The best I can say about him is that he wasn't a racist, and that occasionally his fixation on whatever current project he was currently hyper focused upon would actually benefit the people in a meaningful way.