As I understand it, the black Panthers were so successful, laws were passed to stop them; why don't people LEGALLY walk in groups open carrying to keep ICE polite?

In states that allow open carry without a permit, do so; in ones that require a permit or license, get one; of course again, keep everything within the bounds of the law.

Edit: also travel in groups, the larger the better

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[–] heresiarch@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I run into this kind of thinking sometimes in my own work. Comrades want the left to "get serious" and start doing "cool shit" like having guns and confronting the police. I want that too, but we aren't there yet, and I think that kind of talk comes from a place of frustration with the current level of organizing. People don't want a decades long struggle built on countless conversations and committee meetings, they want a final, dramatic confrontation with capital right now that will decide everything forever. I think it's the same thing behind doomer-type rhetoric about how the government is about to "really crackdown" or that you're going to get arrested for being a commie or whatever.

[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Trying to figure out how to keep things grounded and realistically plausible without sounding overly pessimistic and ending up turning people away is one of those frustrating things, isn't it? That we just got to keep on dealing with, because this is always going to be effected by our current conditions and there's never gonna be a "perfect" answer. At the end of the day it is a collective effort and we can only do the best we're able to, life's already hard enough under the boot of capitalism.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

People want the Great Patriotic War, but without industrialization and collectivization beforehand.