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Israeli and Zionist influence in the USA is a purposeful choice of the American government. It allows the American government to circumvent many domestic and international laws by allowing Israeli firms to do the spying and dirty work for them. Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus (and therefore, American capital). This has created a feedback loop of constantly reinforcing settler colonialism and American economic extraction of the Middle East. If America withdrew support to Israel, this feedback loop would cease and Israel would be greatly diminished or completely collapse.

Saying Israel controls America is simply wrong, stop saying this. I will remove your post. ✌️

edit: altered title for clarification and to avoid nonsensical semantic arguments

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[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We don't need to pretend that the exact opposite of "zog" is true just to prove the nazi's wrong. We cant ignore Israel's own agency here. The contradiction of believing their own ethnic supremacy while being wholly dependent on the US is part of the Israeli psychosis. It has driven them to control as much of US politics as possible. First as a matter of survival, then as a matter of pride. We can't pretend that individual US political and media figures aren't controlled by the Israel lobby just because the US as a whole controls Israel.

Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus

You can't be a "rogue state" yet be "entirely controlled". That would be a puppet state. They could be controlled but aren't. The leash is almost always slack. Also the leash isn't the " American intelligence apparatus", its the federal budget.

Edit: Your title is flaming bullshit, like WTF? Israel absolutely does control many US politicians. Who the fuck is Ritchie Torres then? Jamal Bowman and Cory Bush just disappeared on their own.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 27 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

as pertaining to your edit, ted cruz literally said he's in american politics to be israel's biggest supporter lol. 100% in it for the israeli dollars, not at all for texans. so yeah, i don't know about this post. i don't like antisemitism. i think it's gross and should be bannable. i'm not sure i have EVER seen anyone being antisemitic on hexbear. even once.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The mod teams reeks of UK labor ideas of antisemitism and is being absurdly reductionist.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 21 hours ago

Also the same BS peddled by Antideutsche and soft antideutsche in Die Linke.