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If I’m giving her the absolute benefit of the doubt, it just feels like she was an uneducated conservative parent who fell for Trump, and only just lately has she actually woken up to what he’s about.
It’s probably not as good as this though.
I think she’s distancing herself from anything Epstein while she still can.
Right. I think she’s putting her money on Trump failing so she can run for president and say “see, I stood up”
Which is a brilliant move, if project 2025 fails.
If she splits the Vance vote then she will be doing the Lord's Work
I cannot actually imagine him doing very well in an election either way.
I bet you would have said the same thing about Trump in 2016 and yet here we are. Attempting to understand the thought process of inherently irrational people is a losing battle.
Nah, when Trump won the nomination in 2016 I knew we were cooked. Vance doesn't have the same appeal. He's got the "owning libs" part down but his humor lacks a broader appeal, unlike Trump.
Vance has “the machine” behind him though. He was Thiel’s pick.
Yes, but mere months before winning the nom the very idea of Trump winning it was unthinkable. And frankly it still is, and only makes sense when you understand the movement original detached from Trump that pushed him. They're who won the nom, Trump was just the easiest person to enact their agenda through. We all should have been paying way more attention to the unsavory shit happening online like gamergate, because the masterminds behind that are the ones holding the real power today, imo.
Sorry bud, I knew he was gonna win because Hillary was gonna lose. I did not think he was going to lose in 2020 though—and honestly I wish he won just so we would be done with it all by now. But that revenge project 2025, mixed with 4 years of him aging just killed the whole country.
Hillary won the popular vote. The electoral college should have been abolished after the election was stolen from Gore.
As I said, she was gonna lose
vance has the appeal of a well fucked couch
What exactly would you describe as appealing about Trump?
Trump started saying on main the vile, despicable stuff American people had wanted to say since the civil rights movement. He can LARP as a successful person (a poor person's idea of a rich person etc etc). Vance is as appealing as lukewarm cottage cheese.
He may not need an election any more than Putin does.
That is definitely a concern…
This is the only way Vance stays in power. He's shit when it's anything other than someone else's fully processed thought coming out of his mouth
They will just rig it again.
Vote?
Vance is not running in 2028, it will be Donald Trump Jr. They won't even need to change the hats.
I think she was a true believer who finally woke up to the fact that Trump and his lackeys are doing everything they can to prevent disclosure of the Epstein files. And that was like her main issue.
I’ve said this a few time on here, but I’m originally from spitting distance from her district, and based on my experience with so many other folks just like her; protecting children, specifically from conspiratorial trafficking and SA, is her number 1 priority, she’s usually really fucking bad at identifying ways to productively do so because she’s very poorly educated and indoctrinated, but if she has 100% confirmation Trump raped a child, which isn’t unlikely, she would almost certainly turn on him like it seems she has.
Yeah, at least the voters actually do care about "protecting the children." They've just been lied to a lot and are told it's trans people and illegal immigrants who they need to protect them from. Once they see the truth, that it's the ultra-wealthy elite who are the real evil people, they may do the right thing. You just have to break them out of their bubble, which is really hard.
Let's be very clear: she's a massively racist bootlicker, this is not a new leaf she turned over, it's fucking around and finding out.
I think part of it is that she's like every Confederate ever, on nearly every issue. It's a trope for a reason - unless it affects them or someone very close to them, they don't give a fuck. So one of their kids gets pregnant while a teen, or one of their kids comes out, etc....when it comes to the health insurance, it's because her kids are hitting the 26 years mark.
If she can see the other stuff, that's just icing on the cake, and I'll take it. I mean the tariffs are probably Taco manipulating the market. It sickens me that someone like him can just brazenly enrich himself with the market manipulation, the grifting, and things like crypto. I guess Marj got sick of it, too, although I have to admit I'm surprised about it. My cynical self wonders if it's because of some similar selfish reason the Confederates are known for. Still, the outcome is the same....
I think this is the case as well. Hers could be a valuable perspective for helping others to break free of their own trump derangement trance. Hope it spreads far and wide.
I like to think she was just some lady who got hit on the head by a falling coconut, and that turned her into the cartoon character she was when we all met her, and since then she recently got hit by another coconut and now this is who she is.
Maybe she’s like a reverse John Fetterman. She was a MAGA fascist but then had a stroke and became a rational person. Opposite of fetterman.
na… she’s an opportunist… coconuts have no role in this shit show. she will follow the populist winds to oblivion
She wants a shitty America that conforms to her way of thinking. Problem is that trump is making it hard for her by making it hard on her constituents, and her ratings have been falling, so maybe this is all just self-preservation.
I think she's simply a true believer, and all the other MAGA politicians are grifters; I think she has closer genuine beliefs to what most civilian MAGAs believe than the others within the government.
I don't want her in power, but I'd take her over the grifters.
Her and RFK Jr I think are the true believers with respect to their stances compared to the broader sea of exploitative grifters.
That said, I'm not sure whether the grifters or the true believers are more dangerous..