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[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Then it’s even more crucial to not capitulate like this. Radicalize people by saying Israeli colonialism didn’t start on 10/7/2023, be straight up about the embargo and the aggression against Venezuela happening literally TODAY. To the rest of us who don’t know him personally, it’s giving liberal Zionist imperialist socdem.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Exactly. It’s much better to lose while principled then win while selling out. One of these days we will win while principled, and that’s when you know shit is on.

The Bolsheviks were able to be principled about opposing war AND supporting the local workers and peasantry because Russia was losing a devastating world war. The conditions for American socialists to do the same likely won’t be present until such a situation arises.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s absolutely what it’s giving off. It’s pathetic capitulation for zero tangible benefit. If I had to guess it’s putting the cart of governing before the horse. Just zero need to say that unless I guess you are worried people won’t work with you after you were elected to achieve your agenda? But at that point, what was even the purpose?

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Questions I wish I could ask him. It's really hard to square the positive experience you've had with him to the half dozen instances of public backtracking/accepting of a traditional imperialist narrative.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Unfortunate he’s out of my orbit now. Maybe a few years ago I might, but a few years ago he wasn’t doing this. Really disappointing but potentially radicalizing for those who haven’t already been