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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

If Israel loses Kirk’s base, it really is in crisis in the U.S. discourse.

The question I have that never really translates to discussion irl is why that even matters. I see them talking a lot about shit like TikTok and shifting views, but when's the last time popular sentiment made the machine do anything? What the fuck does it matter if 98% of America can't stand their stinking rotten guts?

[–] ufcwthrowaway@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Public will doesnt matter but constituency does. If there are people in power who want to be anti- Israel and think there's an anti Israel donor base, it frees them up to take that position

The real question is if there's more mtgs in congress

[–] jack@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

Why do you think they try so hard to control public opinion if it doesn't matter?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Most of the zionists in the US only support Isreal because they think it will trigger prophecies from the Bible. Some zionists understand Isreal is the way for US to project power over the region, but the majority think God needs help setting off the Rapture. They don't actually give a shit about Jews or Israelis. They just want a world war to start that results in the Third Temple being built.

All this to say, it really doesn't matter if 98% of Americans hate Isreal. The politicians and leaders will still support Isreal to maintain control over neighboring countries by the threat of violence. The true believer fundamentalists will still support Isreal because their plan results in Isreal's destruction either way. And a third population already hates Isreal (neo-nazis), but they hate Arabs and Muslims even more.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Pushing something against public sentiment is much more expensive and inefficient, even if they still can do it.