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If Israel loses Kirk’s base, it really is in crisis in the U.S. discourse.
The question I have that never really translates to discussion irl is why that even matters. I see them talking a lot about shit like TikTok and shifting views, but when's the last time popular sentiment made the machine do anything? What the fuck does it matter if 98% of America can't stand their stinking rotten guts?
Pushing something against public sentiment is much more expensive and inefficient, even if they still can do it.
Public will doesnt matter but constituency does. If there are people in power who want to be anti- Israel and think there's an anti Israel donor base, it frees them up to take that position
The real question is if there's more mtgs in congress
Why do you think they try so hard to control public opinion if it doesn't matter?
Most of the zionists in the US only support Isreal because they think it will trigger prophecies from the Bible. Some zionists understand Isreal is the way for US to project power over the region, but the majority think God needs help setting off the Rapture. They don't actually give a shit about Jews or Israelis. They just want a world war to start that results in the Third Temple being built.
All this to say, it really doesn't matter if 98% of Americans hate Isreal. The politicians and leaders will still support Isreal to maintain control over neighboring countries by the threat of violence. The true believer fundamentalists will still support Isreal because their plan results in Isreal's destruction either way. And a third population already hates Isreal (neo-nazis), but they hate Arabs and Muslims even more.
this is basically all due to some imaginary change of heart on kirk's part and the resultant conspiracies, right? what a bunch of fucking dweebs
i actually think china had him killed, because right before it happened he made a video talking about how china strayed from the true path of marxism and has been corrupted by capitalism since the dengist reforms
right-wingers are going to be making up a bunch of conspiracy theories no matter what, so it's better that the target is Israel and not random trans people.
The target is, in large part, Jews rather than Israel, as can be seen in the "coverage" from one of the biggest proponents of this line, Candace Owens.
Interesting they're trying the "woke right" counternarrative
That, and "israel" instantly stating "WE DIDN'T DO IT :^)" before the body was cold
Pissrael benefits from planting the 'we did it' conspiracy seed: it can make people believe the Mossad is all powerful thereby scaring public figures into not speaking against them, and by increasing anti-Semitism in the US and elsewhere abroad which can make Jewish people feel unsafe to whit pissrael offers themselves as a (not actually)safe haven for them to move to increasing there tax base and conscription pool.
When does a corpse turn cold?
It's driven by convection, so it depends on the heat of the corpse relative to the heat of the surrounding environment, along with the physical condition of the body itself. Assuming an average male body mass, 98.6 degrees F internal temperature, a room temperature of 75 degrees F, and a basically intact corpse wearing light clothing, I looked it up and algor mortis takes about 22 hours to complete. This also assumes normal humidity and no wind.
Usually after the IOF extracts the reproductive material from fallen male combatants
Kirk was pretty cold in life, so his death probably instead warmed him up for a few seconds
Heat is stored in the balls
His neck definitely got pretty warm for a few seconds at least
idk, it's just a saying
OK but their videos saying they definitely didn't kill Kirk has a lot of people asking questions already answered by their videos.
i need a way to not believe either side
He said something critical of Israel shortly before he died and then got sniped solidly. Lord help me I forget what the clip was - but I think a change of heart is a good way to describe it in form. In magnitude it might be too much because I didn't exactly see him decrying the evils of genocide.
The conspiracies were from things like having that old guy claim to have done it, finding a rifle that the guy wasn't seen leaving the roof with, and shit like that. Israel's involvement as a scapegoat came from antisemitism, Netenyahu immediately speaking on it, Netty claiming it wasn't Israel, and Israel's history of doing shit.
Nethanyu held 3 speeches reiterating it wasnt him. Bgood on you to fight his battle...
Israel should pop another conservative podcaster... just to be on the safe side.
Surely, if they pop 
Shabibo no one will suspect them.
Especially if they very loudly proclaim it wasn't them.
They should engrave "I am not employed by the Israeli government" on each bullet casing just to be sure
Why there is no exit wound? Where is the bullet? This could've been a ragweed allergy attack. STEEL BEAMS DON'T BEND BULLETS wake up sheeple! Tyler Robinson IS A PATSY
The evidence is so contradictory and sketchy that I really don't believe he was the shooter at this point. Like did he disassemble the rifle on the roof, then reassemble it and leave it in the woods? If he used a 30-06 why didn't Kirk's head turn into confetti or pop off like he was a jack in the box? What 20 year is saying "vehicle" instead of their whip???
What 20 year is saying "vehicle" instead of their whip
Someone who was brought up Mormon in suburban Utah. They're in their own little linguistic bubble out there.
Why do people keep saying this? I've lived nearby and known lots of 20 something mormons and none of them text or talk any different from the non mormons in the nearby areas (other than pronouncing milk as mɛlk and pillow as pɛlow)
pɛlow
is that like peelow or pehlow?
That IPA symbol makes the 'eh' sound so pehlow, I'm not from Mormon country though
Mormon's after a heavy soaking session "plɛase suck my pɛnis"
The left is getting better at comedy, and the israel lobby is worried
None of this shit makes sense and I guess that's the point of crank conspiracies but I will say this much: MTG can go on twitter and blame everything on the jews and she faces no real opposition to doing so or loses sway within the republican party.