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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

If Israel loses Kirk’s base, it really is in crisis in the U.S. discourse.

The question I have that never really translates to discussion irl is why that even matters. I see them talking a lot about shit like TikTok and shifting views, but when's the last time popular sentiment made the machine do anything? What the fuck does it matter if 98% of America can't stand their stinking rotten guts?

[–] jack@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

Why do you think they try so hard to control public opinion if it doesn't matter?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

Most of the zionists in the US only support Isreal because they think it will trigger prophecies from the Bible. Some zionists understand Isreal is the way for US to project power over the region, but the majority think God needs help setting off the Rapture. They don't actually give a shit about Jews or Israelis. They just want a world war to start that results in the Third Temple being built.

All this to say, it really doesn't matter if 98% of Americans hate Isreal. The politicians and leaders will still support Isreal to maintain control over neighboring countries by the threat of violence. The true believer fundamentalists will still support Isreal because their plan results in Isreal's destruction either way. And a third population already hates Isreal (neo-nazis), but they hate Arabs and Muslims even more.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

Pushing something against public sentiment is much more expensive and inefficient, even if they still can do it.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago (6 children)

this is basically all due to some imaginary change of heart on kirk's part and the resultant conspiracies, right? what a bunch of fucking dweebs

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

right-wingers are going to be making up a bunch of conspiracy theories no matter what, so it's better that the target is Israel and not random trans people.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The target is, in large part, Jews rather than Israel, as can be seen in the "coverage" from one of the biggest proponents of this line, Candace Owens.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

Interesting they're trying the "woke right" counternarrative

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That, and "israel" instantly stating "WE DIDN'T DO IT :^)" before the body was cold

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Pissrael benefits from planting the 'we did it' conspiracy seed: it can make people believe the Mossad is all powerful thereby scaring public figures into not speaking against them, and by increasing anti-Semitism in the US and elsewhere abroad which can make Jewish people feel unsafe to whit pissrael offers themselves as a (not actually)safe haven for them to move to increasing there tax base and conscription pool.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

When does a corpse turn cold?

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's driven by convection, so it depends on the heat of the corpse relative to the heat of the surrounding environment, along with the physical condition of the body itself. Assuming an average male body mass, 98.6 degrees F internal temperature, a room temperature of 75 degrees F, and a basically intact corpse wearing light clothing, I looked it up and algor mortis takes about 22 hours to complete. This also assumes normal humidity and no wind.

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Usually after the IOF extracts the reproductive material from fallen male combatants

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Kirk was pretty cold in life, so his death probably instead warmed him up for a few seconds

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Heat is stored in the balls

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

His neck definitely got pretty warm for a few seconds at least

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

idk, it's just a saying

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

OK but their videos saying they definitely didn't kill Kirk has a lot of people asking questions already answered by their videos.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

i need a way to not believe either side

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

He said something critical of Israel shortly before he died and then got sniped solidly. Lord help me I forget what the clip was - but I think a change of heart is a good way to describe it in form. In magnitude it might be too much because I didn't exactly see him decrying the evils of genocide.

The conspiracies were from things like having that old guy claim to have done it, finding a rifle that the guy wasn't seen leaving the roof with, and shit like that. Israel's involvement as a scapegoat came from antisemitism, Netenyahu immediately speaking on it, Netty claiming it wasn't Israel, and Israel's history of doing shit.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nethanyu held 3 speeches reiterating it wasnt him. Bgood on you to fight his battle...

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

i actually think china had him killed, because right before it happened he made a video talking about how china strayed from the true path of marxism and has been corrupted by capitalism since the dengist reforms

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Israel should pop another conservative podcaster... just to be on the safe side.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Surely, if they pop debate-me-debate-me Shabibo no one will suspect them.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Especially if they very loudly proclaim it wasn't them.

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They should engrave "I am not employed by the Israeli government" on each bullet casing just to be sure

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why there is no exit wound? Where is the bullet? This could've been a ragweed allergy attack. STEEL BEAMS DON'T BEND BULLETS wake up sheeple! Tyler Robinson IS A PATSY

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The evidence is so contradictory and sketchy that I really don't believe he was the shooter at this point. Like did he disassemble the rifle on the roof, then reassemble it and leave it in the woods? If he used a 30-06 why didn't Kirk's head turn into confetti or pop off like he was a jack in the box? What 20 year is saying "vehicle" instead of their whip???

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What 20 year is saying "vehicle" instead of their whip

Someone who was brought up Mormon in suburban Utah. They're in their own little linguistic bubble out there.

[–] Zezzy@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do people keep saying this? I've lived nearby and known lots of 20 something mormons and none of them text or talk any different from the non mormons in the nearby areas (other than pronouncing milk as mɛlk and pillow as pɛlow)

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

pɛlow

is that like peelow or pehlow?

[–] femboi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That IPA symbol makes the 'eh' sound so pehlow, I'm not from Mormon country though

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Mormon's after a heavy soaking session "plɛase suck my pɛnis"

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

The left is getting better at comedy, and the israel lobby is worried

[–] Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 months ago
[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

None of this shit makes sense and I guess that's the point of crank conspiracies but I will say this much: MTG can go on twitter and blame everything on the jews and she faces no real opposition to doing so or loses sway within the republican party.