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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Oh no, for American Evangelicals, hasten is 100% a game plan. My mom was talking up a conspiracy theory genetic breeding program in the 90s to get someone to perfect an all red hefier so if could be the sacrifice for when the new Temple in Jerusalem is opened to then tick all the boxes from Revelation.

Never you fucking mind that Fresh JC gets to pick the date and time. Oh no. They just paved the way for whenever JC feels like. So just like, take your time, but hurry up. Because of the crushing credit card debt and bad financial decisions and bad health because JC might come back any day, so why bother to save for next week, right?

The American Apocalyptic mentality is formed around fixing their own shitpile lives because they never felt they had the agency to do it themselves.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

25 years ago, my aunt said we don't have to recycle or care for the planet "because Jesus is coming back soon."

It was at that point I realized that people who don't believe the world will still exist in 10 years probably shouldn't be allowed to vote.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago

Cubs fans have more visible results of "maybe next year" than your auntie.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well sure, heretical sects have blossomed in the US and they just kind of make up whatever bullshit they want.

That still leaves Thiel as the odd one out, though. I don't think there are any Christian sects that want to actually prevent or delay Judgement. He's doing his own unique heresy that's totally out-of-step with basically the rest of Christianity.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's not out of step with the ones most prone to being grifted ;)

Which are the ones that vote in primaries and call their Congresspeople 9 times a day. They'll flame him for being gay, but they accepted Trump who profits selling them bibles with his name on them, which is pure, uncut Colombian heresy.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But you said it yourself, the Evangelicals want the antichrist to come.

So. Who is he appealing to?

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's the most ironic part. They all think that they'll be so smart that they see it and can spot the Antichrist. But the AC will gain power by being a charlatan that hoodwinks normal Christians like them. They're actually playing into their own enemy by being stupid.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, like, Christians either don't believe that Judgement can be delayed (and that it's heresy) or they want to accelerate it so that Jesus can return sooner and they can go to heaven. What third group is out there trying to prevent Judgement?

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No idea. Why would they want to prevent it? They're the only ones that get a payoff if it happens.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's... what I've been saying? Christians don't want to prevent or delay the antichrist.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and I never disagreed with that.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, you just seem to be ignoring my point, which is that Thiel is the odd-man out for saying we shouldn't hasten the antichrist.

Christians either believe the antichrist can't be hastened or that hastening the antichrist is good. He's off doing his own heresy.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago

Ahhh, OK, sorry I didn't understand that's what you were getting at. Not ignoring it, I must have just missed it.

Though, maybe where we disagree then is that I don't think they think they're hastening the AC, they think they're hastening the rapture, which, while not up to them, is something televangelists and evangelicals will leverage for money.

That Thiel doesn't want to be an accelerationist in general is likely because he has more money than he can spend in 10 lifetimes, and wants to get that group to see things as father of than "it's next week" so he can scam money and power from them.