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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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amazing how much shittier it is to be in the rat community now that the racists won. before at least they were kinda coy about it and pretended to still have remotely good values instead of it all being yarvinslop.

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it would be nice to be able to ever invite rat friends to anything but half the time when I've done this in the last year they try selling people they just met on scientific racism!

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh, I just realised!
Does "rat" refer to "rationalist"?

I thought it was referring to Lemmy because of the rat symbol.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When this was posted to the curatedtumbler subreddit so many people thought it calling out racist pet rat owners.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago

The one racist rat pet owner is gonna be so mad. 'i might be a nazi, but im not a nerd'.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It does, I dont like it personally because of the whole dont compare people you do not like to vermin bit. But it is also a commonly used thing inside the Rationalists community. (I personally also like to capitalize Rationalist when im talking about the lesswrong etc people to make it clear im not talking about normal rationalism).

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wish they had not literally called their ideology rationality (tm) because I can't call it that with a straight face, but eighteenth-century rationalists would go through them like a galleon through a fleet of canoes. I don't know if teenaged-Yud was already a Libertarian or if he reinvented Objectivism from first principles. Political movements on the American right also rely on the same rhetorical move: "we are for freedom! How could anyone be against freedom?"

[–] ulterno@programming.dev -4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Now I feel like I need to read up on all terms in the sidebar before continuing further.

Either way, I'd most probably still stand on my point of not defining a person by the community they relate to and not defining a community by some people that you interact with from said community.
*-ism and *-ist haven't been doing much good for a long time now.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

somehow not the first or second TMBG reference I've seen today

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago

not defining a person by the community they relate to

u wot m8? they're hanging out with active racists recruiting people to racism and their response is to stop taking those guys to parties? you fuckin bet i'm gonna judge them by relating to that community

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is the stance of a lot of people when they first learn of or get skeptical about the Lesswrongosphere. Not a stance you can hold for very long when you read more and more of their work with a critical eye.

Or you find another of their blogs where Steve Sailer is a beloved (but sometimes begrudged) regular. Or when you notice that big twitter race and IQ guy and eugenicists started in Rationalism. Or when the EA people themselves admit this is a huge problem. Or... Etc. Drink horse drink!