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[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago (6 children)

ok... so is there an actual organization called Antifa? I thought it was more of an idea... kinda like "anonymous" but with less feds.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It means nothing in effect

But they know that. There is already effectively no "antifa" in the US. Not really.

Their obvious goal, which this article finally got to (should've led with it... fucking media) is to just label anyone they don't like for any reason "antifa."

Turns out when the president and his cabinet are fascists, or close enough, everyone against them is automatically... hmm. Anti-fascist.

Dems aren't going to do what they should be doing which is pointing out what Kirk actually was, a fascist. But also point out he wasn't killed by any sort of anti fascist because they don't exist in the US effectively. There's a lot they could be doing to help neuter this but they're paved the runway long ago.

The only slightly funny thing in all this is the libs are elevated to the first target immediately because there's no real left to be dealt with. They cheered on this shit (the fascism) and immediately the right is saying "No, we meant you too. Anyone who doesn't love our big beautiful orange Hitler sufficiently." Will they learn? No. Will they do anything when they're being openly threatened? Also no. The fact they ever let Trump remain out of prison basically guaranteed this inevitable moment. Actual morons lacking even the desire for self preservation.

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who doesn't love our big beautiful orange Hitler sufficiently

We're about to start seeing even more praising of trump by Democrats, aren't we

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 days ago

Elected politicians for sure. Regular people who may generally align with dems, probably not. Even people who don't like dems also hate Trump more usually.

In the long run I only see more hardline fascist crackdowns like this leading to more destruction of the Democratic Party. More destruction of the Republican Party. And most importantly... destruction of many lives along the way.

There's also the high likelihood of a full blown Hitlerian regime in the wake of people rejecting electoralism. There won't even be the usual left/right fight for who takes power in the collapse. What left is there?

That seems to be the entire point really. So far as there is any discernible "point" to what right wingers do now days. Destroy whatever the US is currently and it by default will fall into full fascism. I don't know if they're planning it like that, but yeah. There's no other explanation really. They're just doing what every right wing regime does to consolidate power, stomp out any sort of real dissent, implement whatever shit they have planned.

It's only slightly made comical by the fact... none of this is required. They're already getting literally everything they want. They could just keep the facade around. Facades help keep such governments stable. They're really speeding down the highway of fascism and it ends with them finding their own tail and eating it.

It does make me question like how high is the average "MAGA" dumbass right winger on their own supply. How fast and how far are they gonna spiral as it becomes more and more clear that no matter how Trump stomps on everything their lives never get better. That the "enemy" was always a hallucination. That Trump is their enemy. Or the spokesman for the enemy at least. They'll probably never openly admit that. It's just gonna drive them all further insane and lead to more eating of their own asses.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

Dems: if we out-fascist the fascists, the fascists will vote for us instead

[–] Crikeste@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

It’s like saying communism is an organization lmfao

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's pretty much that, it's as if Trump is designating anon from 4chan as a terrorist.

[–] picklemeister@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

i mean, to be fair ..

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It'll be the same thing that the UK did with Palestine Action. If you come out and say free Palestine, well you must be with PA, and therefore you must be a terrorist. They specifically want to target decentralized organizations because it means they can target everyone and just claim that they're part of that decentralized organization.

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

Rip we getting acvelerationism whether we want it or not.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

It’s so they can label anyone they don’t like as a radical woke antifa gang member or whatever and hand down 1000 consecutive death sentences (it doesn’t count as political violence if the state does it)

I’m sure liberals are already on the offensive by furiously calling their representatives as if they give a fuck, and filing legal complaints as if we don’t all know what the Supreme Court is gonna say

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

no organization, it's just an idea and a way to designate all leftists (probably also liberals) as terrorists