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Juche is one of the most widely misunderstood concepts within the leftist canon, but I genuinely cannot understand how someone comes to the conclusion that it's Nazi.
On purely aesthetic grounds, the only way liberals come to any conclusion.
Even aesthetically, juche centers humanity. Is it the general millitarization of the DPRK?
The libs wouldn't know that. All they know is that juche is scary people (asians) in military uniforms. The Nazis also wore uniforms and even though they were white they were also scary.
Currently the libs are huffing about this
https://x.com/HomoiosisZoe/status/1967840799334560029
Ah, gotcha. Still not a Nazi ideology, if I'm reading correctly it seems to generally be for a strong Korean identity as a means to achieve national liberation from colonialism in service of a grander internationalist project. The US Empire's occupation being whitewashed as "progressive" is similar to rainbow imperialism, using progressive social views to safeguard deeply reactionary imperialism. That would coincide with the strong anti-imperialist solidarity across ethnic lines the DPRK has pushed since its inception. That being said, it certainly looks bad, for sure.
That all being said, I'm far from an expert on the DPRK and still need to do a deep dive on it once my reading lightens up.
Yeah with just this surface reading with zero background for me it reads to me as classic '40s Soviet agitprop with an adjustment accounting for the fact the DPRK isn't a federal multi-national state.
I agree. I'd like to see more context than just this snippet, especially from the same author, to see more on this, but at a surface-level it doesn't talk anything about Korean superiority, while directly addressing US occupation.
Liberals will read this and think "evil" then when black nationalists say that a strong black nation must be forged if black people are to gain independence they'll nod along without understanding that's pretty close to the same theory.
As a
, the title is "The Idea of a Multinational, Multiracial Society Means Destruction of the Korean Nation". Given that this is probably as far as they are going to read, and there is by far not enough context to get this interpretation, the libs' instincts are at least in the right place to say that this seems pretty racist, instead of reacting like a chud and thinking "that sounds pretty good actually but they're not white so we have to kill them". Honestly, great propaganda move by whoever found this quote, as it makes DPRK supporters look like they're defending racism
Also pretty close to anything Palestine would write about Israel importing Settlers to displace the Palestinian nation.
If you think of ROK as a colony intended to occupy Korea then the promotion of multiculturalism is a means of acquiring settlers to displace the Korean nation.
"Songbun is scary" (gorg orwal) + "Songun is scary"
I'm kind of curious about Songbun, honestly, but I've gotten a little tired of digging through garbage to find any real information about DPRK
Yea, getting accurate info on the DPRK is a nightmare.
Hey comrade, you might like my reply to the comment you're replying here with some pages about the DPRK that might be of help to you.
Links if needed: Lemmygrad Link or Hexbear link
Thanks, comrade! I don't speak Portuguese, unfortunately, so I'll have to go slowly, but I saved your comment and will revisit it later!
There is a Brazilian institute of Marxists that study the DPRK and maintain relationship with them. It used to be called CEPS - Centro de Estudos da Política Songun (Center of Studies of Songun Politics), but recently they changed their name to Instituto Paktu, they have a lot of great information about the DPRK in general and was greatly used for sources about the Korean war in this absolutely incredible video by Canal Nostalgia.
Website: https://cepsongunbr.com/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/paektubrasil/
Twitter: https://xcancel.com/PaektuBrasil
There's also others like KFA - Korean Friendship Association:
Instagram: https://instagram.com/kfa_brasil
Twitter: https://xcancel.com/KFA_Brasil
KPR - Kpop pela Reunificação da Coréia (Kpop for the Reunification of Korea):
Website: https://jornal.portalrpdc.com/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/kpr_brasil
Twitter: https://xcancel.com/KPR_Brasil
KFL - Liga de Amizade com a Coréia (Korean Friendship League):
Instagram: https://instagram.com/kfl_brasil
Twitter: https://xcancel.com/KFL_Brasil
Being in portuguese will probably pose a challenge since you might have to translate it all, but they are the best I know about the DPRK.
I greatly appreciate the extensive sources!
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
usually mostly just being completely ignorant of history geopolitics and political theory.
Even on a surface level it's nonsense. Juche means self-reliance. It's a political ideology about the DPRK being alone in the world and needing to rely upon themselves. Naziism is inherently expansionist.
They know nothing about it, it's purely based "North Korea is ethnically homogenous and I've been propagandised into believing they're an evil dictator's state therefore they must be compared to nazis".
Typical lazy liberalism.
Yeah, I have a lot of critiques, though there's also much to admire. But I've done the reading and I'm pretty sure almost no one else in the world has. I think I've said elsewhere that I think Juche's foundation is a decent idea for how to progress society in the higher stages of Communism, once practical scarcity is abolished and the material contradictions of political economy are no longer central.