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I get this is something marginalized folks must live with on a daily basis and none of this is surprising, but I’m a white cishet guy and this stuff is eye opening and (further) radicalizing to me.

The entire social response to Kirk getting merc’d is literally the can-excuse-1 can-excuse-2 meme. Down to bone.

White, cishet, male-dominated society (and the mainstream media that extends from it) has decided that, okay, maybe Kirk said some very pointed or occasionally untoward comments. But really, can any of those words compare to being willing to debate in the Marketplace of Ideas? Ok, maybe he was a bit racist. Maybe he didn’t care for trans folks. Sure, that’s all a bit rude. But he was willing to discuss his ideas and be civil about it (ok, maybe not civil, but he didn’t kill anyone over it), and in the end that’s all that really matters, right?

Politicians, the media, and a good chunk of society is basically saying how marginalized people may feel about all this is entirely irrelevant. Any sort of speech that is racist, sexist, or bigoted is excusable so long as the subject serves the broader neoliberal, white supremacist, settler project.

Marg bar Amrika.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 51 points 5 days ago (3 children)

One of the talking heads on CNN literally said "marketplace of ideas" today and I wanted to scream. Vicious, stupid, cruel country.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's funny and sad people think it's a real thing

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

I think of all the unreal nonesense libs believe, the marketplace of ideas is probably the saddest and dumbest, because it so obviously doesn't exist in any degree, or make any sense.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

Legitimizing fascistic stupidity is a time honored American tradition

[–] Test_Tickles@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

what is the marketplace of ideas? like a bazaar but only for Nazi ideas?

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago