153
The American garbage parties
(lemmygrad.ml)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2023
153 points (100.0% liked)
memes
22782 readers
481 users here now
dank memes
Rules:
-
All posts must be memes and follow a general meme setup.
-
No unedited webcomics.
-
Someone saying something funny or cringe on twitter/tumblr/reddit/etc. is not a meme. Post that stuff in /c/slop
-
Va*sh posting is haram and will be removed.
-
Follow the code of conduct.
-
Tag OC at the end of your title and we'll probably pin it for a while if we see it.
-
Recent reposts might be removed.
-
No anti-natalism memes. See: Eco-fascism Primer
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Lmao my vote doesn't even fucking count why should I even bother going out to vote for a RedMAGA or BluMAGA presidental candidate.
You can vote for a third-party candidate. Or write in "Karl Marx". The point of voting is to make politicians know that you are there and have values, but they have failed to earn your vote this time. If enough people do this then they'll notice a significant voting block that is doing this and maybe be encouraged to think "hmm, how can I earn these people's votes?".
The Democratic party did shift when socialist party membership was growing in the US and also when the black panther party was becoming popular. I think at this point you're right, they would probably just rather lose to Republicans these days than compromise and risk making their corporate friends mad.
That's true that they did at those times. I don't think that at this point there will be any concessions to workers for a few reasons, but mainly because at the time you're talking about capital was operating under the Kenyesian model which it took on to adapt to the economic crisis of the Great Depression in addition to donestic labor movements and the existence of the USSR.
Now the combination of neoliberal ideology and the fall of the USSR making them believe in the end of history, i don't think we'll ever see concessions again
You are absolutely correct but I don't think that's necessarily a reason to not vote or support third parties anymore. If anything, there's an even greater need for us to count our numbers now.
I think voting where and how it could be effective makes sense, particularly at the local level. National politics i don't think can meaningfully be affected by us at this moment, but i wouldn't tell anyone to not vote
No of course not, but there is value in counting our forces.
That is not how voting works in the US, the preferences of voters are absolutely not in line with the actions of politicians
Also your comment is just delusional after 15 years of Citizens United
It's clear politics is just spectacle to you