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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Even in acknowledging the need for new leadership, he gets it wrong. Biden himself wasn't the problem, he did a perfectly fine job as president. The problem was you guys in Congress, and the DNC insisting that the Democrats move to the right.

Age may correlate with compromised ethics and standards, but it's not the cause. If the Democrats in Congress weren't such fucking pushovers and did good jobs, I wouldn't give a shit if they held office until they keeled over dead.

Fight - for us - and you can have the job as long as you want it. Refuse to fight? Then get the hell out of the way.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Biden was a decent president with terrible PR due to a fundamentally cowardly position through his entire presidency. The Dems were obviously scared to death of the MAGA Nazis, and spent 4 years trying to appease them.

Biden's biggest, and most enduring mistake was not ordering the arrest of Trump and his henchmen within minutes of his Inauguration. The entire criminal mob should have been detained in Gitmo as National Security threats, and undergone extensive interrogation regarding their nefarious dealings with Russia and others.

Sure, MAGA would have gone crazy, giving Biden the perfect excuse to put them down HARD, and then use their violence to declare them a violent terrorist hate group. In addition, any of their propagandists, from Fox News to Charlie Kirk and Hannity, would be rounded up for encouraging violence, this destroying the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and leaving the only coordinated messaging to the Democrats to justify the MAGA purge.

And don't forget, at that point we didn't know about his scheme to steal hundreds of classified documents yet. So while he was in custody, with the Biden administration saying that he was being investigated for treason, they would have discovered all those stolen documents, and EVERYONE in America would finally understand what traitors they are.

But instead, they did literally NOTHING. They ran a competent administration, which never once tried to promote their accomplishments, preferring to modestly let their successes speak for themselves, which was impossible in the wake of ferocious conservative propaganda.

Just weak, all the way around. Dems need to grow some balls. Dems play like it's middle school junior varsity softball, while MAGAs play major league football, and they are all on the same field.44

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 30 points 1 week ago

People were saying "but if you arrest the Republicans for crimes, they'll put you in camps when they get power back!". Now we have camps.

They're going to be evil no matter what. Might as well try to break their spine while you can.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I will say that the gerontocracy is deeply frustrating, but as you say, it’s the failure to act that’s the most infuriating part.

Sanders is old as fuck, but he has his head on straighter than almost anyone else in Congress. On the flip side, Jeffries seems to be doing a great job proving to everyone that he’s got the backbone of a wet fucking noodle, in terms of backing effective policy and action that would make a real difference.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly! Jeffries was the exact example I had in mind of a Democrat who simply will not stand up for anyone.

His new nickname “AIPAC Shakur” is honestly hilarious and extremely on point

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, the is exactly the kind of comparison that is so very apt. Age is not really the problem, indeed, is likely to become even less of a problem (assuming the likes of Taco and Bobby Brainworms don't completely disrupt all advances in medicine).

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure the Biden fiasco he was referring to was him trying to hold on to the presidency despite his waning health which ended up with the last minute change that cost them the election.

It's nice to see someone learning a lesson from that and coming to a good conclusion.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Working beyond a reasonable retirement age indicates the candidate does not share my values on the subject of retirement.

I don't want my elected representatives representing the idea that We The People should be expected to continue to work into our 70's, 80's, 90's.

Government is serious, important business. There are plenty enough horseshit corporate jobs and needy non-profit charities to meet the perverted workophile needs of these elderly people who still feel compelled to labor.

Representatives of the people, they are not.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The thing is these people aren't working man. You and I are working, they are going to a meeting from time to time on their way to the gym and free restaurant reservations.

They are basically fucking around getting paid shit loads of bribe money to live the old man's dream.

[–] rezad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

yes but the public office, specially the manager, need working brain that can tackle new ideas. I think 80 is too high. I think 70 is too high. maybe set it as the age of retirement.

they can still be as advisors though.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are plenty enough horseshit corporate jobs and needy non-profit charities to meet the perverted workophile needs of these elderly people who still feel compelled to labor.

There are?

If anything ageism is far worse in the private sector, anyway...

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If anything ageism is far worse in the private sector, anyway...

For the same degree of productivity in comparable roles, I would say that the elected official has far more job security than either the private sector worker, or the non-elected public sector worker.

The private sector and the non-elected public sector will discharge non-productive workers relatively quickly. Elected officials tend to hang around well past their obsolescence.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's probably because it's left to democratic processes, vs. a harsh top-down private tyranny. And while some officials hang out longer than they should, it's because voters put them there...I'd much rather find ways to have robust primaries.

Seems a much better way to correct the issue rather than arbitrary limits that might run out people that we need in office.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Except he didn't. His age restricted his messaging. Some decent policy but most people never knew it because he could get out there and talk about it.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Biden himself wasn't the problem, he did a perfectly fine job as president.

History will not be kind to Biden, who threw away all his accomplishments and put America on the path for Trump when he started and refused to budge on his Israel's genocide. A proud Zionist, licked ice cream while dismissing a ceasefire that he repeatedly vetoed while spending billions on weapons for Israel to shred babies alive. He denied it was happening, he had students beat by police for peacefully protesting, he had reporters dragged out for asking questions, and now you want to whitewash his genocide and give Trump all the credit.

Too bad it's fully documented, and you're on the wrong side of history. And nothing will change as long as you celebrate one Nazi just to spite another.