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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I still wonder why men seem to lean so much more conservative or right-wing than women.

It's macho manosphere influencer bullshit mostly. There is no equivalent fem-o-sphere for women. The closest potential is the terf sphere and that's highly limited as it's based in a niche of hating trans women instead of being based in "self-improvement" like the manosphere which gives it broad access to anyone searching for self improvement themes.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks. I've been wondering about how exactly conservatism spreads in general to people who didn't grow up in that type of environment, and it's just hard to fathom. I guess there are a lot of people putting a lot of effort into influencing people in that direction, even outside the "manosphere".

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Outside that sphere the biggest one is coming up through GAMERS, first pewdiepie, now the rat king.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago

I can imagine that. Thanks.

[–] rentasonder@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I understand that it's not explicitly right-wing, but the "Call her Daddy" podcast is probably equivalent to Rogan. It seems more "nonpolitical" but platforms establishment Dems. I haven't listened to it, though.

[–] cbd@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I would say the closest equivalent is probably trad wife (outside the obvious male targeting fetish accounts) or crunchy/"pastel QAnon" stuff but yeah there's not a might makes right fascism baked into it for right wing women (as far as I can tell)

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 2 points 23 hours ago

I've definitely seen women who go for the might-makes-right thing and have the appreciation for old Axis military culture you usually see with deep-in-it fascist men. But that mostly appeals to a specific type of tomboyish/butch woman, usually lesbians, it's essentially the blending of late 20th century/00s lesbian military culture and the "gay Nazis" phenomenon of the 1930s. And it definitely isn't all that attractive to young girls the way the masculine variant draws in young boys.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And it's not appealing to young girls. The macho shit is groomed into the boys at a young age. They are failing at finding a way to appeal to the early teen girls.

They have no pipeline for it. The boys pipeline is well constructed but the girls is non-existent.

They have to appeal to them with something they want, but they don't know what they want, or they're ideologically opposed to it and incapable of synthesising far right ideas with something appealing to what young girls aspire to be personally. The boys aspire to be tough hard strong men. The girls aspire to be ... Strong women. Often creative, intellectual, self-sufficient, confident, etc. The right doesn't want girls to grow up to be this so they fail to present something appealing to these younger girls.