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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 160 points 7 months ago (3 children)

If you don’t take off the uniform and quit, you’re a Gestapo agent.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 109 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Refuse. Unlawful. Orders.

If sanity ever returns to your country, you don't want to be on the wrong side.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If a masked person enters my property and refuses to show identification, I will absolutely be practicing self-defense.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do it just like the Founding Fathers intended:

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

TIL bayonet wounds are triangle shaped.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 14 points 7 months ago

They were triangular for ease of manufacture, they were also stronger that way. They didn't need to be particularly slicey, they were pretty much just for pointy stabbies. So a triangular blade would do.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I believe the triangular bayonets are against the Geneva Convention rules of war now chiefly because of their lethality.

[–] teft@piefed.social 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

3 things. First it’s a myth that triangular bayonets are banned under the geneva conventions. Only serrated bayonets are illegal. Secondly it wouldn’t make sense to ban something in war because it’s “more lethal”. That’s like the whole point of war. Serrated blades are banned because they cause undue suffering. Third, the geneva conventions only apply to humanitarian treatment at war. Governments are free to do what they want to their citizens according to international law. It’s why tear gas is banned for warfare via the geneva conventions yet police can gas the shit out of protestors.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago

Nitpick: the Geneva conventions apply for all kinds of conflicts, including domestic ones. However, tear gas is allowed for riot control in policing.

The reason it's banned in war is because if the other side sees you using chemical weapons, they might respond with their own, but the bad ones, like nerve gas. In riot control, that isn't going to happen.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it was the "undue suffering" component that I was thinking of. Thanks for the clarification. What was the reason to do away with them then? They went to flat blades, didn't they? Not sure if bayonets are even current issue for armies any longer. Are they?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Not sure if bayonets are even current issue for armies any longer

You've run into the answer here: bayonets simply aren't a big deal in warfare anymore, so it doesn't overly matter what they're shaped like.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

Good thing we aren't an army.

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 3 points 7 months ago

The US aren't concerned with conventions, are they? I mean they use cluster ammunition, depleted uranium ammunition etc...

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

National Guard is a branch of the army isn’t it? I’m not sure you can just quit. AWOL? Maybe. If you’re close to your end date you can choose not to continue. But quit? Don’t think army works like that

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just tell them you're trans or gay

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

“Section 8, here I come!”

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This isn't russia, AWOL means forefitting benefits and possibly sitting in jail for a bit. Juggling between the consequences of AWOL or carrying out nazi orders, I know what my choice would be.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

I’m not saying you shouldn’t go AWOL. I’m saying you can’t just quit

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet your not the type to join the Armed Forces in the first place. -No offense (I'm not either) I say this because I think the type of person that's anti-war enough to opt for jail over carrying out nazi orders is the same type of person that knows better than to ever find themselves in a position to make this decision. If I'm wrong, I welcome your corrections.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

neat.

remember anyone who joined did so willingly as we are 100% volunteers in the US.

If you find yourself waking up to the facts of the regime you volunteered for, good! if you are unwilling to lose benefits or do some time, then you’re not yet awake enough to really care.

remember: you may have joined due to propaganda and agitation, and you may not be able to awol because of capitalism.

the very same “ism” that profits from the military action.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can’t just leave your badge on the desk and walk out like in movies, either.

But being punished for abandoning your post might be the only other alternative to being a brute in the service of a dictator.

The Army and law enforcement of DC will decide in whatever direction their personal characters leans them towards.

“I can change THE system from THE inside!!1”

No, you can’t. Run. The tribunals that you will face after Trump is arrested or killed will not be kind to you.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So funny story, I had a coworker basically up and walk out like in the movies. So I mean, you kind of can.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Meaning not without legal repercussions. You have to be formally discharged in both services.

But hey, law and common sense appear to be clean out the window in America now so, go nuts!

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Never heard about any legal percussions. Supposedly he can’t come back though

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 5 points 7 months ago

I have a feeling that Maga is strongly represented in all armed forces..