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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 114 points 3 years ago (8 children)

I know it's an anathema to most in the US but the government needs to step up and take Starlink and Space X off Musk for a fair price. He's way too unstable to be trusted with tech that important.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 80 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

A fair price would be musk in jail for his crimes.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I was gonna say $3.50, but jail works too.

[–] hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Elon would want $4.20 cos he’s a fucking dolt

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 3 years ago

How about .420?

[–] LegionEris@feddit.nl 1 points 3 years ago

Loch Ness Monster 2024

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 51 points 3 years ago (1 children)

The older I get the more socialist I am. Yeah, take it away from his dumb ass, but don't keep it ffs. Make it employee owned. Make every business employee owned.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 years ago

Make it a Co-op with government oversight and maybe security. Its too stategically important to be allowed market level independence.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 25 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

This is how I feel about Starship. Amazing progress is being made and he's going to fuck it all up before it ever has a real mission. It's sad. World's first fully reusable launch vehicle capable of building real shit in space like colonies and infrastructure and it had to be him that did it.

[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST@kbin.social 39 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

Did he really do it? I'm pretty sure that was the engineers, which Musk is not.

[–] cerevant@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago

But he says big words about rockets on Twitter. That means he's an engineer, right?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

What I meant was it had to be him that became the figurehead. I want someone with the drive and passion for space exploration, not someone with the passion for profit. A humble engineer or scientist who exists only to expand their knowledge and with plenty of fascination about the universe, not this dollar store Tony Stark wannabe narcissistic blowhard.

I guess I'm shouting at clouds though, because that's how the system is set up. People don't start companies because they want to do something awesome. They start them to make money.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago

Those people are too busy working to become figureheads

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 3 years ago (2 children)

As much as I hate Musk, I doubt something that ambitious would be tried without him or someone like him. Same with starting a fully EV car company when everyone thought we were just but ready for it. Yes the engineers are the ones who do the work, but it takes someone willing to risk a lot of money, and the ability to bring in more money, to make that stuff happen.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Elon didn't start shit. He bought Tesla.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 3 years ago

He bought a small dying company and turned it into the most valuable one they ever existed. He made the Tesla we know today.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

He didnt start a fully EV car company, HE BOUGHT ONE.

Quit holding people on high regard based on their cult of personality.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 3 years ago

He made the Tesla we know today, the Tesla we know today would not have existed without Musk, it likely would have died a small silicon valley startup that nobody had ever heard of.

Just because I hate him doesn't mean I won't give him credit for doing what he did.

[–] hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure someone at Tesla or SpaceX put the Twitter idea in his head so he would fuck off and meddle with something else and let them do their actual work instead of dealing with his stupidity, micromanaging and narcissism.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 years ago

Folks at the Boring Co are just keeping their heads down hoping he forgets they exist

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

He borrowed a billion from it to buy Twatter. What happens the next time he needs money?

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 5 points 3 years ago

I would love a SpaceX without Elon.

But the thing that made SpaceX what it is now is largely that it is not a government entity.

[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

“How am I in this war?” Musk asked Isaacson. “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”

[–] charonn0@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago

That's a pretty glib way of looking at it.