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What an utter piece of shit.

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[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST@kbin.social 39 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

Did he really do it? I'm pretty sure that was the engineers, which Musk is not.

[–] cerevant@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago

But he says big words about rockets on Twitter. That means he's an engineer, right?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

What I meant was it had to be him that became the figurehead. I want someone with the drive and passion for space exploration, not someone with the passion for profit. A humble engineer or scientist who exists only to expand their knowledge and with plenty of fascination about the universe, not this dollar store Tony Stark wannabe narcissistic blowhard.

I guess I'm shouting at clouds though, because that's how the system is set up. People don't start companies because they want to do something awesome. They start them to make money.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago

Those people are too busy working to become figureheads

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 3 years ago (2 children)

As much as I hate Musk, I doubt something that ambitious would be tried without him or someone like him. Same with starting a fully EV car company when everyone thought we were just but ready for it. Yes the engineers are the ones who do the work, but it takes someone willing to risk a lot of money, and the ability to bring in more money, to make that stuff happen.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Elon didn't start shit. He bought Tesla.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 3 years ago

He bought a small dying company and turned it into the most valuable one they ever existed. He made the Tesla we know today.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

He didnt start a fully EV car company, HE BOUGHT ONE.

Quit holding people on high regard based on their cult of personality.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 3 years ago

He made the Tesla we know today, the Tesla we know today would not have existed without Musk, it likely would have died a small silicon valley startup that nobody had ever heard of.

Just because I hate him doesn't mean I won't give him credit for doing what he did.