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That's fair, tbh.

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[–] Keld@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Books can, have and should be written about just how much the Scottish are not a colonised nation, but direct and eager participants in tbe british empire and its crimes. The Welsh at least can claim to be conquered, although see the part about being direct and eager participants in the empire.

Welsh oppression is like Occitan or Breton or Sicillian oppression. They're not a racialised minority, they're not colonised, let's not do this.

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm fine with reserving 'colonized' for particular sorts of oppression, but the economic relationship between England and Wales is highly exploitative. To give one example, they electrified the rail network everywhere other than Wales lol. Wrt to 'racialized' again I'm fine with reserving that term, but 1) the Welsh accent is very distinctive and does lead to people being 'read' a certain way, and 2) as an English person in Wales (unpopular truth alert) you absolutely will face discrimination, though this is arguably justified

[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're not a racialised minority, they're not colonised, let's not do this.

I'd argue there has historically been a tendency of racialisation of Welsh people.

Especially around stuff like the blue books, the findings of which formed the basis for policies focused on erasing Welsh language and culture.

And some of those policies were still ongoing in living memory, there are records of the use of the Welsh knot well into the 1960's.