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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 234 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

Beginning to question the inherent wisdom of "Normal transition of power" when Biden handed the keys of the kingdom to a guy who openly planned to lock all the doors and shoot the next guy elected to walk through them.

But hey, I guess it would have been against the rules not to meekly empower a fascist dictatorship.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I love these comments that always place the blame on Biden, instead of you know, the actual fucking fascists. JFC.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 3 points 9 hours ago

I think it is because you can't reason with these idiot fascists, but we could have reasoned with Biden.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

For the record, the "actual fucking fascists" didn't materialize during this last election, or the one before it, or the one before it.. etc. I remember when the dems campaigned on "no human is illegal" in 2016 but by time of this last cycle, they were capitulating on immigration and the border to attract the elusive moderate republican to vote democrat.. a strategy that failed our democracy in the end.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I hope you are being cheeky by saying 'beginning to', it was immensely obvious this was the plan going back to, at bare minimum, about a year before the election, when Trump just kept saying he was gonna serve 3 terms, his supporters wouldn't have to vote again, etc.

[–] Labtec6@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago

Probably what will happen is anyone who might challenge them will suddenly be arrested on Trumped-Up charges.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I disagree with Biden's handling of the transition, but it's definitely internally consistent with his beliefs. He really, really wanted the global rule of law to work.

I would not be surprised if part of the intention here was to maintain legitimacy during the initial transfer, so that when the monsters refuse to do the same, it will lend legitimacy to a global response to assist the people in reclaiming their democracy.

Now, you could also call that 'passing the buck' and... Well, yes. He did seem to do too much of that, imo. Or not enough, depending on how you look at it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He really, really wanted the global rule of law to work.

Hence backing Al Qaeda in Syria, fleecing Afghanistan of it's currency reserves to kick off a famine, propping up a military dictatorship in The Philippines, all while continuing a 70 year old illegal blockade of Cuba? Never even mind the Holocaust in Gaza.

Come on, dude. The US has always been playing Calvinball with Rule of Law. If Biden made noises about it, that's just him delivering the company line one last time to the liberal rubes.

when the monsters refuse to do the same, it will lend legitimacy to a global response to assist the people in reclaiming their democracy.

That's pure cope.

Biden bent over backwards for the Silicon Valley mega-donors practically from day one, and they took full advantage until he was used up and disposed of.

He wasn't secretly plotting a resistance movement, he was carving up the country in advance so that Trump could sell it off easier.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 21 hours ago

To clarify, I am not a Biden supporter by any means. In fact, I place a lot of the blame for the fucked state of the world right now squarely on his shoulders. It would not be a stretch to say that I harbor a deep resentment for the man's work.

However, I do think there's a lot to learn from his career. Because as far as I can tell, the man genuinely seemed to be trying to improve the world for the average person. Thus, he clearly fucked up catastrophically, and there's a lot to learn from how and why.

The US disregard of the Rule of Law historically seemed to be one of his personal bugbears. At least from what I've seen of his accounts and those around them. I won't judge you if you want to discard him as a bumbling hypocrite, but we can learn the most from failure.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He really, really wanted the global rule of law to work.

No, Biden did not. He actively broke it by financing Israel's genocide against international and domestic law.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago

You're right, that was awful and idealogically-rooted behavior justified in the name of liberal statecraft.

US support of Israel is a huge problem, and needs to stop. I am with you, and he should be held accountable for the part he played in that.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry US law, that's where the US can do whatever it wants in the rest of the world but at home there is a rule book (allegedly)

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I do find it strange that the people down voting are more upset about someone pointing out how Biden broke International and Domestic (Leahy) Law to finance a genocide than the actual genocide itself

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

biden was happy as long as netanyahu was happy.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (7 children)

So what. You wanted a dictatorship to stop a dictatorship. Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 71 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

Once people who've sworn to end democracy are given the power to end democracy, then it's game over for democracy.

Preventing a corrupt criminal who's a known agent of a hostile foreign powers from becoming president is a healthy thing to do.

[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the electorate in a democracy want to end democracy, then it's game over. You can't save that.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

Unless the democracy has systemic flaws that allow it to be captured by minority rule, and that minority voting block disenfranchises enough of the opposition to take all power from the majority.

This wasn’t a democracy in anything more than name before the election.

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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Congratulations, you just discovered the paradox of tolerance.

And, yeah, essentially, in order to survive, a democratic society cannot allow those who seek to destroy it to participate in the democratic process.

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[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wanted the traitor coward Merrick Garland to do his motherfucking job and prosecute that POS and throw him in federal prison while making him completely unable to appear on any ballot.

Thanks for asking.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Garland did what he was hired to do. He slow walked the investigations so biden could run against trump again because biden knew he couldn't beat anyone better.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You wanted a dictatorship to stop a dictatorship.

Given the current state of affairs, I'm not clear how a Permanent Biden-o-cracy was supposed to be worse.

Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

Well, thank god we don't officially lose our Democracy for another eighteen months.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

its worse because it would be 18 months sooner. Its like climate change. It won't help if we were at 5 degrees now instead of 1.5. That would not fix it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its like climate change.

Weird you would mention that in the context of a presidency that's effectively set himself to the task of nationally Rolling Coal.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

its hard to mention anything he is not making worse.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

It has always been a dictatorship of the rich.

This is just taking the mask off.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

That's right, if it's allowed to happen, it's pretty hard to come back from that

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago

You wanted a dictatorship to stop a dictatorship.

[citation needed]

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