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I moved to Piefed because the Lemmy devs are pro-fascist tankies. I can provide proof.
can you provide proof?
https://lemmy.world/post/24798
https://fediversereport.com/lemmy-ask-you-anything-again/
https://sh.itjust.works/post/6776825
They responded to the accusations with the following press-releases, but I'm not convinced:
https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_after_the_Reddit_blackout
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/07-history-of-lemmy.html
Your proof is that someone got angry that their post got removed for bigotry?
I might switch or have both Lemmy and PieFed profiles. When you moved to PieFed, was it possible to sync or import your data from Lemmy? Comments, posts, upvotes, etc.
You can import your Lemmy settings, which are the subscribed and blocked communities, instances and users, and saved posts as well
you can import/export the settings from lemmy to piefed.
(also tagging @BaroqueInMind@piefed.social)
There is an entire community dedicated to this at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works (see especially the megathread post with many linked examples), while other communities mostly have stopped talking about it since it is such common knowledge (therefore "old news" and thus off topic), but see also some posts in e.g. !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com .
I note that lemmy.cafe is one of the only instances I've ever heard of that is brave enough to defederate from all three of the largest tankie instances, despite the main devs of the Lemmy software also being the admins of some of those.
Edit: also there is this interesting post: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531 .
What does defederating mean?
A complete cutoff of all communication between instances (servers). Theoretically should only be used as a last resort, where the instance admins refuse to moderate their userbase, but in practice there seem to be several instances that contribute mainly negative (i.e. trolling) content to the rest of the Fediverse, in which case losing everything from them - all the good but also all the bad too - becomes worth it.
See also the "Nazi bar" effect: YOU may not be a Nazi, nor any of your friends, and you may meet separately like a quiet corner or back room, but if you hang out in a bar that becomes known for being friendly to Nazis, then anyone you invite to join you at the bar is likely to deny your request. The possibility of goodness of conversations with you in that case gets outweighed by the likelihood of bad interactions with the Nazis that they would have to pass by on their way to you.
Although in the case of Lemmy, it is not Alt-Right Nazis, but Alt-Left tankies, at hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and to a lesser but still very significant degree lemmy.ml.
If you have to slander us, at least try to make it believable.
It's written, so it's libel in the USA. Not sure where you are or if it's different.
I'm not a lawyer and people don't speak English in my country. So I don't really care how it works on another continent, as long as you get the meaning.
I'm not picking at you, just noting that libel usually carries harsher penalty.
Ignoring the "fascist" criticism, the fact that you reply to this with Fidel Castro as your PFP is amusing.
I'm glad that you are amused.
I hate tankies, but I think Castro had great socialist policies to provide good education and healthcare to all. It's silly to assume something from simply appearances and profile pics because that would be dumb as fuck
It seems a lot of people especially from the US are still suffering from red scare propaganda. Anyway its just an avatar to give a human face to my online accounts without using my real face.
First you gotta ask Dessalines why he's banning people for shit like this and then hiding it under Rule 1.
https://lemmy.world/post/32825174
https://lemmy.world/post/32776038
https://lemmy.world/post/32720652
https://lemmy.world/post/32425984
And here's your other admin, Davel
https://lemmy.world/post/32627834
Oh yeah, and the time you guys federated with Hexbear and were all buddy-buddy with their tankiejerk comments in the announcement post.
First you can explain why some people are so obsessed with lemmy.ml that they keep posting about every little thing that happens and even organize a "boycott" (lol). Personally I completely ignore all the politics communities on Lemmy, it's much more relaxed this way.
Are you trying to pull a Regina George, or...? I think it's pretty clear why people abhor your instance when everyone's getting a piece of it from the very admins.
Anyway, we're not talking about that. You said it was slander, and there you have it, it turns out it's not.
Thats a character from "Mean Girls"? Never watched that series. Those who abhor lemmy.ml could simply ignore it, there are plenty of tools available. Instead some people spend all day complaining about it. Seems so pointless and exhausing when they could do something useful with their time instead, and post about things that they like.
Yes, the movie Mean Girls. Regina tyrannizes the whole school, antagonizes everyone and she's all, "why are you so obsessed with me"? Like, gurl, why do you think?
But like I said, I was only replying to you about the slander. We wouldn't have those receipts if people didn't post them when they happened in the first place. But my question is, if the whole point of Lemmy is to have the transparency that Reddit lacks, why are the admins discouraging people from looking, painting it all as an obsession?
Raise your hand if you've been personally victimized by Lemmy.ml
I was victimized, apparently .ml is too lib for the CPC so I had to jump instances when traveling in China because they blocked it. I kinda like this instance more so I haven't bothered to go back to my old acc now that I'm outside the Great Firewall.
Thank you for sharing your experience in China, but we're talking about admins.
Dessalines: is an asshole to people.
People: "We don't like you."
What part of this is confusing to you? Dude literally won't post off .ml because he can't handle any push back or criticism without having the banhammer ready.
But who is people?
whines about politics, yet has account on extremist tankie instance of politics. you're no better than conservatives to be honest, they use the same exact denial-speak.
Where am I whining?
"pro-fascist" and "tankie" are polar opposites. There is a clear contradiction in your claim.
Or you used the liberal definition where fascist means "not white enough" and tankie means the same...
Does piefed have an iOS client yet?
Voyager and Mlem have both recently introduced basic Piefed support, and I believe both plan to expand it in the near future.
Dont know, but why do you need an app when it is an http sandbox for the mobile site that already works in a browser?
Why does every fucking thing need an app? Just use the website. It looks and works the exact same way, but doesn't send telemetry to Apple or Google.
I would like to know this as well but you came across so strong here that I think you will never get an answer to this implementation of your question:-)
It's too bad most people, including yourself, are intolerant prudes and nothing will change towards a positive trend in your lifetime.
Perhaps I am... and perhaps you are too, and is that even wrong/bad, to have opinions about what we like or do not?
The world is as it is, not as we wish it. That said, power comes from realizing that and turning it to your advantage. I wanted to gently push you to consider that, but I may have come on too strong myself. Don't let me ruin your day!
Your de-escalation skills should be taught everywhere.
Thank you for your kind words:-)