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Why are americans so obsessed with toilets? Do they start the potty-training too early or too late?
The GoP needed a cultural political weapon. So they picked the weakest minority, gays and trans people. To use as a distractions, while they rob the public and destroy the country.
Someone's comment that I read elsewhere pointed out to me that this is a similar tactic that was used back in the day with white only bathrooms and non-white bathrooms.
History doesn't repeat but it rhymes.
The GQP sees the world in very black and white boxes, if you don't fit in one of those boxes, then you don't count.
They create black and white boxes for express the purpose of having people that don't fit.
I know that the GoP politize the weird toilet obsession to use as a wedge (as they do with pretty much everything), but it feels like it has been a thing for much longer than that.
This isn't about trans people specifically, but the very existence of gendered bathrooms dates back to hilariously sexist 1800s ideas about how men and women should only be allowed to coexist at home. No surprise that religious fundamentalists continue to weaponize private spaces against anyone that doesn't fit their norms.
I was thinking about the very same thing yesterday and decided that men wanted to show their wieners to other men but not to women. I couldn't find any other reason for gendered toilets😅
Culture war has been their go to strategy since at least the Nixon administration.
I'm sure all the gender stuff is fueled by the right, but what about that huge gap in the door where you can look people in the eyes as they shit?
Or the water level?
toilet stalls with large gaps is a financial decision. the gaps mean that the construction tolerances are more forgiving. they can be installed anywhere without much hassle. which reduces cost
Prolonged eye contact
If you know which set of genitals the person in the stall next to you has, you either voluntarily got in the glory-hole stall, or you've majorly invaded thier privacy.
I would love to go back to not giving a shit but people can't just mind their own fucking business so I keep getting into arguments about why does it matter if a trans person uses the bathroom they want to. Just leave people alone so they can shit in peace.
My only issue is when there are showers involved. But even then, homosexual people exist, so even that isn't a hill I'm willing to die on.
Yeah if that is your hill you should be arguing for shower stalls anyway. Like you said nothing stopping anyone from perving in there as it is. Gender has nothing to do with it.
Yeah, it's certainly irrational, but as you said, it's very real. I don't want people of the opposite sex looking at me naked (or even the same sex, but that's less bad), and I'm sure they feel the same about me.
To me that sounds quite sad. Non sexual nudity is a unique experience it's unfortunate that many will never be able to enjoy it or disassociate it from sexuality.
In Germany there are big and accepted nudist spaces. It was also quite the cool experience meeting strangers in a public sauna in Finland. It was such a peaceful environment, as everyone was literally exposing themselves and showing a certain vulnerability that we do not encounter otherwise.
Yeah, I've been to a public bath in E. Asia and, while it was uncomfortable for me (very different from my culture), it was fine. But I bet most people from my region wouldn't even consider going.
Nudist spaces (for example sauna) are relatively common in some parts of Europe. I don't think it's necessarily a western thing.
At least the US doesn't charge money (in general) to the toilet. I found that to be far more disruptive.
It's not all Americans, just one specific political party that happens to have gone completely batshit crazy.
It's not even the majority of that party, it's a very vocal minority.