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I would love to go back to not giving a shit but people can't just mind their own fucking business so I keep getting into arguments about why does it matter if a trans person uses the bathroom they want to. Just leave people alone so they can shit in peace.
My only issue is when there are showers involved. But even then, homosexual people exist, so even that isn't a hill I'm willing to die on.
Yeah if that is your hill you should be arguing for shower stalls anyway. Like you said nothing stopping anyone from perving in there as it is. Gender has nothing to do with it.
Yeah, it's certainly irrational, but as you said, it's very real. I don't want people of the opposite sex looking at me naked (or even the same sex, but that's less bad), and I'm sure they feel the same about me.
To me that sounds quite sad. Non sexual nudity is a unique experience it's unfortunate that many will never be able to enjoy it or disassociate it from sexuality.
In Germany there are big and accepted nudist spaces. It was also quite the cool experience meeting strangers in a public sauna in Finland. It was such a peaceful environment, as everyone was literally exposing themselves and showing a certain vulnerability that we do not encounter otherwise.
Yeah, I've been to a public bath in E. Asia and, while it was uncomfortable for me (very different from my culture), it was fine. But I bet most people from my region wouldn't even consider going.
Nudist spaces (for example sauna) are relatively common in some parts of Europe. I don't think it's necessarily a western thing.