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In 2025, the federal minimum wage is officially a “poverty wage.” The annual earnings of a single adult working full-time, year-round at $7.25 an hour now fall below the poverty threshold of $15,650 (established by the Department of Health and Human Services guidelines). The limitations of how the federal government calculates poverty understate how far the minimum wage is from economic security for workers and their families.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 93 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm kind of more shocked at $16,000 a year is considered above poverty.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The poverty line was historically measured simply by multiplying the USDA's cheapest food plan for a household to buy groceries with adequate nutrition, and multiplying by 3.

Then, in the intervening 6 decades or so, food inflation has gone up significantly slower than housing inflation, to where that simple assumption of "barely enough to eat, times 3" began systematically understating actual poverty.

Today, feeding the reference family of 4 (2 adults 20-50, 1 kid aged 6-8, 1 aged 9-11) costs $996.20 per month (as of March 2025). That's basically $12,000 per year, so the poverty line for a family of 4 is $32,150 (updated every January with September data).

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So cost of rent/mortgage is excluded.
Then the state provides a shelter, right?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can maybe wait three + years for a Section 8 voucher!

If applying for that is anything like applying for unemployment, good luck lol.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 9 months ago

In some places, that's on a lottery system.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Woah 16k gross? That's wild.

Maybe if rent was... Checks notes $395 a month.

Then you'd have $9,500 a year, so $790 a month to spend on everything else. Let's say you then buy only flour for sustenance.... AI said $27 per month to eat just flour.

Which leaves you with $763 a month for entertainment.

What are these people even complaining about?

Maybe don't eat golden sushi and crack cocaine for every meal Jesus

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Think of how many pieces of Avocado toast you get for $763/month: these people are living the life!

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You could literally just grow your own avocados and use the unlimited flour to make your own toast, thats like infinite money. Why are poor people so stupid and useless? It's like all they do is buy drugs and alcohol and beg the rich/moral people to pay for it and do everything for them. I can't believe how lazy some people are.

Still /s, in case that isn't clear enough

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

/s if you're really THAT dense.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 9 months ago

The numbers are all made up, and they've not kept track with inflation or the economy in a long time. Things like "minimum wage" simply lingered to allow those better off that sometimes have a conscience to sleep at night, thinking there is a system in place for the less fortunate. Our Federal government has been failing us longer than Mango Mussolini's presence, he is simply baring and accelerating the asshattery.