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If you claim that every major group that claims to be christian is not actually christian, then what claim do you have to be an actual christian instead of them?
Also, if you consider every such group to not good, then why do you want to base your beliefs on their fiction that they consistently use for horrible stuff that ranges from abuse on a personal level to colonialism, slavery, and genocide?
cause i'm more christian than they are, literally same claim they make. if your christianity consists of 15 minutes in sunday church and denial of benefits in your work time or making bombs, i do think you are not a christian, i don't give a flying fuck what your priest says about intentions. If your faith consists of hating people, as it's the lowest form of prayer to hope for misfortune of your enemies, i do think you are full of shit. (and i'm agnostic, cause i think christians are full of shit as a whole, but i do recognize that my morality was significantly influenced by christianity either by osmosis or bible)
if you think colonialism, slavery or genocide wouldn't happen without christianity, i do suggest hitting some books one more time (or many more times). (i do think homophobia is very traceable though).
So, you do not have any more basis for your claims than they do? Considering that, and the fact that they outnumber you by a lot, it seems that they are better candidates for being classified as actual christians.
In that case, christians can be divided into being full of shit and ones who base their beliefs on the claims of the ones who are full of shit but with a few deviations.
I don't, but christians and their organisations have been consistent supporters of such. The rest still has their beliefs entirely on the say-so of those (with, again, some deviations).