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The 1/10 is pretty much what could reasonably be taxed from a simpler medieval farmer without them starving.
Also today we do have systems like social security. There are also quite a few things very similar to commons. Roads, parks, public land and so forth come to mind. I am pretty sure, if you created something like common land for farming most everybody would not use it. At least judging by the number of gardens trying to grow food.
Not for much longer at the rate things are going.
Just don't try to live on public park land. They'll bulldoze your tent, sometimes with no notice. Sometimes they'll lie you into a false sense of security saying they will assist you with housing, then remove everything you own before said assistance is provided.
Modern public works have basically nothing in common with medieval commons, including use. Loitering being a crime is proof of that alone, but you also can't just plop down a house or tent in a public park legally.
To your second point community gardens are almost never empty whenever they're created.
Medieval commons had governance systems in place as well. Mostly it was just the right to fish, collect fire wood, pasture or something similar on the land. Building a house is clearly outside most of that.
My garden is pretty much dedicated to growing food. Well, herbs mainly because it's not big enough to produce a useful amount of food. Also started growing opium.
"herbs"
The very best quality.
Interesting, in Australia we have community gardens in most areas and I have never seen any of them empty. Of course that being said, they aren't the sizes of industrial farms but are more intended for producing produce by hand labour
Where I live people can not even be bothered to pick apples from the apple trees on the site of the road, which are planted by the city so anybody can just do that.
So rather I am rathet amazed that most Australians seem to actually grow at least some of their own food.
Really? I know the location of around 10-15 apple trees around my area now and you pretty much never see any apples within arms reach, beyond that there are loads. Its clear that they are being picked.
Plums and sloes don't seem to be so popular and I think blackberries are so abundant that even though people are picking them there are more to go round than there is demand for them.