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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

just want to be safe and raise their kids

If they really cared about that, maybe they could have tried harder to prevent this from happening in their home country, yeah?

That's such a cop out. "I just want to raise my family in peace" but not enough to work to create a peaceful society for them. Americans are so god damned selfish and thoughtless about anyone's future but their own.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Why didn't you try harder to stop this from happening if that's all it takes?

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

You have no idea what they did or did not do.

You have no idea what they went through in the USA.

Look, I get you. I come from a family that actively resisted the Nazi occupation with guns, smuggling and at great risk.

And if it ever came to it, I would stay to fight. That's just my nature.

But it's not for everyone.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

Look. I get you. But, it it were up to me, I'd have been gone during the Bush II years and I'm still stuck here.

This place has fucked me up enough already. Despite doing "everything right" in my studies, my first career, in scientific research, died before it began, thanks to the ultra-wealthy causing a global recession. Every day I wonder if it's going to be the day that I hear that my trans sibling has been taken or died a death of despair. I lost a cousin to cancer because she couldn't get treatment due to the nazi's handling of COVID. I'm in therapy because of serious childhood trauma. I'm childless, despite wanting to have children my whole life (have never been in a position to afford them and my spouse is disabled, so, I'll likely never have the energy to parent anyway). I know that, no matter how much I put into a 401k, it's never going to be enough for me to retire. The current head of the CDC has suggested putting people like me in forced labor camps.

I spent decades being politically active and trying to get others active, voting, and engaging with reps only to have tankies and centrists actively sabotage any attempt to realistically pull the country Left without the massive amount of death and suffering (especially experienced by vulnerable people) that tankies circlejerk about trying to cause.

Nothing that I do here has any ability to change things in the country for the better within my lifetime, which is likely to be cut short due to living in this country during the ongoing fascist coup that everyone around me is still in denial about. Sure, I help out neighbors and the like as they need it and I'm able. If we meet and you need help, I'll absolutely help you if I can.

I'm not going to Luigi someone or join the Maquis - I am needed too much by my family. Nor am I going to opt-out - I'm too filled with spite over what was stolen to make things any easier for them. And I'm sorry but, if I can get my family out, I will.