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This is happening again and again: judges rule that deportations are illegal, then Trump's people just kidnap the victim and deport them anyway. A whole lot of people were just deported to a prison in a foreign country whose government has said they will never be released. They will be slave labor for a foreign country until they die, and there was no trial, no due process, no evidence presented for their being guilty of any crime. It's just the US government kidnapping people and trafficking them into slavery abroad, completely ignoring its own judicial system. The USA is already a dictatorship, and it only took a few weeks.
I mean, decades of sowing the seeds but a few weeks since they were able to solidify their power. I don’t think that’s unusual, seeing how quickly Germany fell to the Nazis.
Unusual maybe, but I wish it wasn’t so easy to accept it as just another part of history. I hoped we were better than this with all the new tech, but I guess old habits die hard. The new tech just seems to be a new tool they’ve been getting the hang of, and AI makes the dumbest sound less dumb to the ridiculously ignorant by choice. By so many choices I can’t fathom.
I hate to say it, but that mess in the 20th century was humanity paying the piper for insane tech advancements.
We’re going to have to pay again. We aren’t smart enough to handle it. Those that are can only sit back and watch in horror at what we do with it.
Yes to all but the last sentence. We live and act, how can we use that best for the rest of us? Smarts have nothing to do with it.
I don’t believe that we’re collectively smart enough. I have spent too much time around too many people.
Religion, ancient lasers, flat earth, lizard people, Illuminati. These things are waaaaaaay more common than rational people realize.
Pick any random person and talk to them about what they believe. Prepare to be amazed.
I agree almost completely. I just don’t want to give in to the will of the boards of directors that do their best to maximize the disinformation to maximize their short term profits.
There’s got to be more value to civilization than that, right? Things are real and truth has value even if meaning doesn’t matter.
I guess I just like to dream about what we could be, but it’s not getting any easier to believe in it.
But yeah, we’re going to have to pay the piper.
I used to dream, just like you. I sat and watched Star Trek over and over again and I really, really, really believed in humanity.
Then it hit me. We were born from chaos. We happen to have some great and intelligent members. We’ve been lucky to have some of them and we’ve paid dearly for having others.
We were born from chaos though. It shaped everything we are.
We followed grifters into deserts to learn about their fake gods and gave those grifters our bodies and our resources and we continue to do just that, all around the world. People are still fighting and dying for grifters who have been dead for thousands of years, and the new ones use their names for their work.
That is what we are. We pride ourselves on history that has nothing to do with us. We are either animals who want to survive all for ourselves or animals who want our group to survive. We want the other groups to join us, sure. Some of us even feel sorry for them when they don’t. Some of us don’t and we load them into camps for mass extermination.
To me, it’s all just that chaos we were born from. Just trying, trying, and trying to survive.
Rebels crop up because the system might not be working. That’s why fed people don’t complain. Take nourishment away for just a little while and activate the rebel. Epigenetic changes and all that.
I’m the wrong person to talk to. I’m in a deep depression and I’m drunk haha.
Who knows? Maybe we’ll take control of the chaos one day and we’ll be amazing. I hope so.
I’m so sorry for typing this out. If it helps, I’m a total idiot and I’m dully conscious of it.
It’s time for armed resistance
If these unjust and illegal actions can't be stopped through elections, politicians or courts, it does seem the only ways to stop them would involve physically obstructing them.
And if anyone doing these illegal deportations is tried, and even convicted, the president can just pardon them.
Presidential pardons are dumb and were always waiting to be abused, change my mind.
Yes, it seems like for all the USA's supposed opposition to kings, they just had to make the President the closest possible thing to an all-powerful king. Whereas countries with parliamentary systems and a Prime Minister don't have this problem, even when they technically have an actual king.
Anyone have a good source on the illegal kidnappings and the prison that won’t release people? I’ve been trying not to follow US politics but goddamn clearly I need to when they’re up to this shit already
NPR, the source that floofloof linked above, is a pretty solid news source. The article linked discusses the mega-prison in El Salvador.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but which link do you mean? I’ve checked every comment in this thread and not seen any NPR links (also checked floofloof’s recent comment history and didn’t spot any), and I’m questioning my sanity 😭
I’ve read the article attached to this thread and this is the first I’ve seen El Salvador mentioned, so thanks since that at least gives me something to search lol
One of the sentences in my previous comment was the link. Here's the URL:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-to-know-about-the-el-salvador-mega-prison-where-trump-sent-hundreds-of-immigrants
Thanks! This is how the comment looks on my end (voyager app):
Is this the wrong comment or is voyager tripping?
Edit: I was expecting to be horrified, but holy fuck reading the article you were referencing still shocked me. The fact that prison exists at all is genuinely sickening, let alone that people were kidnapped and sent there across country lines without trials or evidence. Thanks again for providing the link a second time, but I think I’ve had enough internet for today now lmao
It seems Voyager is failing to highlight the link text. I just use the regular web interface and it looks like this:
It usually includes the link below the comment text as an attachment, as well as highlighting, but it seems to have missed that there’s a link at all (the text isn’t clickable either). I’ll try to remember to file a bug report later, thanks!
It’s not a voyager issue, it’s a Lemmy issue, the link didn’t federate for whatever reason. Maybe an edit that op made to add a link didn’t federate, I’m not sure. You can check by the opening the comment with Lemmy-ui on Lemmy.ca vs lemmy.world.
Wow speak of the devil lmao
I woulda checked non-voyager UIs before bothering you with a bug report, but I appreciate you being this on top of things lol. Thanks for all your work on voyager!
Not a stupid question at all! It looks like others already commented the links but I'm sorry you're not seeing the link format for that sentence. Next time I'll be more helpful and link it now that I know some formatting doesn't go through for everyone (I was commenting while walking to a meeting and I meant to be helpful but I see now I could have done more!)
Sorry, I'm not from the us. Who has imprisoned them? Is this the el Salvador thing?