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  • Apple's progress with Siri and artificial intelligence has been slow, and features promised in June remain delayed.
  • At a Siri team meeting, senior director Robby Walker acknowledged the frustration within the team, describing the delays as "ugly."
  • Features like Siri understanding personal context and taking action based on a user’s screen are still not ready and may not make it into iOS 19.
  • Challenges include quality issues that caused these features to malfunction up to a third of the time and conflicts with Apple's marketing division over showcasing incomplete features.
  • Apple has withdrawn related advertisements and added disclaimers on its website, citing extended development times.
  • Senior executives, including Craig Federighi and John Giannandrea, are reportedly taking personal accountability for the delays.
  • Walker emphasized that the team’s work is impressive and that the delayed features will be released once they meet Apple’s standards.
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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 246 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is what happens when you get pressure to please shareholders instead of customers. Historically, Apple has been good about revealing and delivering at the same time. But caught with their pants down during the AI hype, they fell into the trap so many other tech companies do. (Tesla is the undisputed heavyweight champ here)

Now that they’ve been burned by all this, here’s hoping they learn from it and return to form.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Historically, Apple has been good about revealing and delivering at the same time.

I'm not so sure about that. MobileMe, iTunes Ping, Vision Pro, and AirPower (their wireless charging pad) come to mind.

"You're holding it wrong"

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of these things except the AirPad were released at about the same time they were announced. That’s what I was getting at.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 8 points 21 hours ago

While they did get released when they said, they didn't get released in the state that was stated/indicated though.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 21 hours ago

I don't think tech companies got caught with their pants down, they just hit the far end of the S curve regarding growth.

A lot of other "tech" companies in the past saw massive leaps in tech capabilities, then hit a wall once tech got to a certain level. Computing has hit its wall.

[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apple has had so many misses recently. The current AI stuff, Vision Pro and maybe the 16e (too early to tell) form stuff that has released. But also this Siri AI, Air Power wireless charging pad, Apple Car project.

The Apple Watch is probably the last hit they had (the M series chips are good but not really new products, but maybe that’s me being overly harsh)

maybe that’s me being overly harsh

That's actually probably fair: the M-chips are impressive, but they're just an evolution that's come out of the A-series stuff for their phones.

Which, of course, Apple bought and did not actually create. (I'll let someone else argue the merits of buy vs do it yourself, especially when you give your aquisition endless R&D funds to make good shit.)

[–] IAmLamp@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, first they’ll need to dig up and reanimate the corpse of Jobs. It’s amazing to see how they repeat the same failure track when he’s not pushing them to innovate. Even when he was (back) in the top dog seat, they still fell behind the competition and took forever to come up with features that other companies had been doing for years.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That’s always been their MO though. Take a recent innovation, and implement it better. That always means it’s later than tech from other places, but they get it “right”. Yes, I know that’s subjective.

In the case of AI, they scrambled to announce the feature with barely any work done on it. Had they kept mum about Apple Intelligence features for a year or so and then revealed, that would be the Apple way.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Also by all indications the current direction in Machine Learning (stuff like LLM) is a dead end which will never yield a "reasoning artificial intelligence" (even whilst quite a lot of other areas in ML have already reached sufficient capabilities in their domain to actually be useful) so there really isn't any space to "implement (the main subdomain of ML that has been promoted as) AI better" IMHO.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It has its uses and who though we where anywhere near general intelligence. They are still making strides in LLM and it can still improve and is useful.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

LLMs have already massively slowded down in terms of improvement from generation to generation and they're not at all improving when it comes to logical errors (because they're not structured for that at all - they're massive statistical engines for language, not reasoning devices), so it seems unlikely that this stage of LLM evolution is the beginning of something massive, rather it looks like it is has gone as far as it can.

Not saying they're useless, just not at the early days of a game changer technology.

When Apple got into personal computers, that tech was just about to go from a niche thing to mass adoption (from big machines in universities and very large companies to mass adoption by consumers and businesses) and 3 decades of advancing by leaps and bounds, and similarly Apple's entrance into portable networked computing (with iPhones and iPads) pretty much turned the niche of ultra portable computing devices (such as the Palm Pilot) into an omnipresent mass market product.

A lot of that was getting in early and then ridding the wave of incremental tech improvements in those areas and related areas.

What exactly wave of tech improvements is there going to be from now onwards on LLMs given that they've barelly improved in terms of output and the only significant improvement in the last couple of years was Deepseek's significant reduction in required computing power from "insane" to "massive"? Even some kind of amazing fall in required resources crossed to mass adoption of NPUs and TPUs would still not solve the reliabilty problems of the Technology and so far nobody has managed to crack that specific nut.

I was there when personal computing took off, when mobile networked personal computing took of, when the interned took of and so on, and what I'm seeing with LLMs now (not 2 years ago, but now) doesn't at all feel like being at the brink of a revolution like with at least the personal computer and the internet (the smartphone looked more like a cool gimmick back then, to be honest).

Frankly the AI "Revolution" at this stage feels a lot more like the Bitcoin "Revolution" after a few years and it having been taken over by greed and speculation, than the Personal Computer Revolution or the Internet Revolution.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It probably doesn't help that the tech in question, LLMs, are kinda shit, to put it plainly. You make the shiniest, most polished turd and it's still just a turd. They are interesting and can be neat to play with but, they lack practical applications where cost to run them actually makes sense and benefits humanity. The iPod shuffle was more impactful, when measuring positive impact on people's lives.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

Take a recent innovation, and implement it better.

Ah, the mad rush to be Second Place.