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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think it’s unlikely that Canada would formally resist and hold the border for long…

The border will fall very quickly, and that's just expected given the 10:1 outnumbering and the amazing weaponry. Our best play is to let that fall quickly and fight a resistance, should it come to that. It's gonna be horrific.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ref: Vietnam

Also assuming the US military would go along with it.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Trump is replacing the top people with fascist loyalists. It's likely the military would cooperate.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Replacing the top people with incompetents.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Would the soldiers though? Also They cant even meet recruitment numbers

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you are really preparing for something like that, I suggest you think sabotage instead of actual fighting.

Because, first, you might want to google casualty numbers for guerilla campaigns, they won't look nice for guerillas, and second, times change and certain countries either already have or can quickly achieve capability to just track everything resembling a human over all the territory of Canada, from space.

Of course it's amazing that people are seriously discussing USA invading Canada. It's no different from the Mexican wall.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I wonder if there's a plan to evacuate the Canadian leadership to some where in the far north. It probably wouldn't make any difference because of US air superiority. But, taking the 90% of the population that lives within a few hundred km of the border is pretty different from taking the entire country all the way to the pole. It could be that setting up a functional government in Grise Fiord would force the US to actually try to hold more than just the south.

A smarter move would be to be a government in exile from England or something. The monarchy is a bit of a joke these days, but I think an invasion of a country where King Charles is officially still the monarch would force him to do something. If he didn't, he'd lose what little remains of his power. I don't know if he could rally the commonwealth to fight a real war against the US, but sanctions and so on would probably be possible.

As for what would happen on the ground if Canada were actually occupied. Imagine the "Troubles" from when there was a dispute over Northern Ireland. Add to that that Canadians and Canadian accents are essentially indistinguishable from American accents. Then add that there's no way that Canadians could be kept out of the US, because of the longest land border in the world. Next, consider that slightly less than half the US are Trump supporters, and Canadian "terrorists" would have many friends in the US. Also, look at how incredibly easy it is to get weapons in the US. Finally, think about how the US has had almost no war on its own soil since the civil war.

The US is used to sending soldiers to kill and die overseas. But, look at the destruction of Gaza, and compare that to Sept 11th. Two buildings fell and a few thousand people died and the US absolutely freaked out. Just imagine how unprepared the US would be for an actual guerrilla resistance on its own soil.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The border can't fall because even in WWI it wasn't something intended to be held. I'm saying "even in WWI" and struggling to remember any war in history where someone would try to hold the border. Even in antiquity wars involved too much agility and maneuver for this to make any sense.