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Bottom textthis is not an endorsement of the zyzzians, this is a shitpost.

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 50 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

Here's a primer on the zizians, which you can read if you'd like your eyebrows to get stuck one tick higher for the rest of the day.

The tl;dr is that they're a cult orbiting around an offshoot of the SF Bay area "rationalist" scene. The SF Bay is a brutally alienating grifter hellscape. The rationalist scene is a disorganized counterculture highly concerned with morality*. This naturally attracts confused young adults who are in weird places in their life; that's just what a moral counterculture does. Ziz targeted particularly vulnerable people from this pool, particularly trans people, with a cluster of techniques out of the usual cult playbook, notably including a novel type of sleep deprivation.

* Whether these ideas are right or wrong are irrelevant, but if you want my take: a stopped clock is right twice a day, but a clock that's spinning around really really fast is right way more often.

[–] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 14 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

notably including a novel type of sleep deprivation

I’d like to know more about this

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

I have a guess!

It's lifehack bullshit. I have a biphasic sleep schedule and I'd be miserable on five hours of sleep.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm biphasic, thought the second sleep period is definetly longer than 30 min. Usually I shoot for 1-2 hours.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

90 minutes is my sweet spot for sure.

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