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So don't punish him at all? Just let him get away with it?
i don't really believe punishment is necessary, but surely there is something we could do to get him to help like... fix the problems he created for others.
I mean, I agree with the core of what you're saying, but there's a difference between believing in rehabilitation over punishment for someone who robbed a convenience store because they needed money to feed their baby, and someone who exhibited this degree of sociopathic behavior.
What would you propose we do to fix the problems he created? He could spend a lifetime paying it back bit by bit and still not be finished when he dies.
I don't have the answer but I don't see what good it does to lock him up
It ensures he can't harm anyone else, for one. It provides some measure of closure and peace of mind to the victims, for another. It's not like it's just financial crimes, it's witness tampering and threats that he's in there for. How else can the witnesses feel safe? If I were they, I certainly wouldn't feel safe if he was out on the street.
no, it doesn't: there are other people in prisons.
i don't see how anyone is safer with him locked in a cage.
He stole millions of dollars and tried to ruin people's reputations to save his ass in court and you think no punishment is necessary?
So he should be free to just do it all again?
I just don't believe in punishment. I think that we could find another solution that actually helps people. we might even help him.
What specifically would stop him from ruining more lives? The man put his ex-girlfriends diary online to stop her from testifying. He's fucking evil.
i didn't know all the details and it certainly sounds like he's done some shitty things, but putting him in prison doesn't stop him from ruining more lives.
Again- what would stop him from doing it all again? You don't have a better solution.
Also, "done some shitty things" is a very big understatement. He literally ruined people's lives. And you think he should be able to get away with that.
What if he'd published your private information online for everyone to see? Still fine?
I'd prefer we find a solution that is more humane than locking him in a cage.
Fine. Come up with one. Because until you do, that's the best solution we have.
It doesn't 100% remove the possibility, but it severely curtails it.