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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 week ago

There's nothing wrong with .ml communities stop the stupid infighting, splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Having a tankie instance as prominent as .ml is already hurting the Fediverse. It's not a few bad Apple communities, it's literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The beauty of the fediverse is that people can block and see whatever they want. If you don't like what you see, that's a you problem not .ml's

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials

Gee, I wonder what your disagreement is

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 week ago

it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials

Dramatic 🙄

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Fine, can we concede that while they're allowing other topics to flourish on their instance there are also unwritten rules that lead to confused banned users?

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 week ago

Can you elaborate about unwritten rules? Most of the bans I've seen has been for pretty clear rules violations, there's some stuff which might fly on reddit (like xenophobia, sexism, racism, transphobia), that will catch a ban here. Having rules against bigotry actually getting enforced is probably a confusing occurrence for some redditors. Even people behaving hostile will generally only catch a temp ban to cool down, permanent bans are more for people who are being bigoted.

I have had plenty of issues with at least one of the admins, despite that I have yet to be censored for saying as much. The red-baiting disguised as legitimate concerns rubs me the wrong way though.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

So you admit to paying 0 attention?

YePowerTrippingBastards on my home instance is a good starting place, have fun

Or, you know, play the classic .ml card of pretending you don't know what we're all talking about

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

More often than not someone when complains about getting banned and I bother to follow up in the modlog it turns out that they got like a 3-7 day ban for acting like an complete asshole. Then they proceed to vague post about it months later despite the ban being long over.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Most of the time, yeah. But there have been enough other cases over the past couple years that I wouldn't put too many eggs in that basket (or any for that matter).

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago

The tricky bit is how you guys have redefined what xenophobia/sexism/racism/transphobia means. I don't mind catching a ban, but at least get the reason right.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago
[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You haven't even had any mod action taken against you on lemmy.ml from what I can tell.

Plenty of other instances that you do use have banned you for racism and trolling though.

This one from hexbear was really funny:

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

You are unwittingly making their point for them. Hilarious!

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean they never even got banned from .ml, but here's a sample of other places they've been kicked out of, so this isn't really making the case for authoritarian mods on .ml tbh

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago

I remember that. Yeah, some hexbear users were saying that all white people should be killed. Apparently saying "no one should be killed for the color of their skin" is racism. Or at least according to their definition of racism.

I am so glad I blocked their instance.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dude, chill. I got banned from hexbear for literally the exact same reason. Who cares? Let them run their own instance the way they want. They're blocked and you don't have to look at them anymore.

Authoritarian racists exist and want to murder you, welcome to planet earth. First day?

A reminder why under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered by the working class.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Check the modlogs. .ml uses rule 1 as a catch all for whatever is said that hurts their feelings.

Almost daily there are removals and bans that don’t break rules.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago

weird, looks like you got banned for the same thing on lemmy.world, (hostility, repeatedly calling people "kids" in a derogatory way, and trivializing the ongoing genocide), but only had a post removed for similar behavior on .ml.

CW: .world modlog

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moderated .ml comment

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got any better examples?

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago

"Nothing wrong" lol. Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I've practically been radicalized against visiting tankie spaces and it's because of their lies and responses to myself and others...

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Take a look at the modlogs from .ml admins and moderators. Their rule 1 violation is a catch-all for anything that hurts their feelings. They remove shit that clearly break no rules all the time.

Don’t believe me? Go to any .ml community and respectfully disagree with anything positivity said on the topic of Russia or china. See what happens.

It’s almost as if they’re not smart enough to know that the modlogs are public or something.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I swear I need to make a log or something at this point for when this inevitably gets brought up so I can just paste links. I frequent any community and respectfully disagree all the time. I have one moderation from when I first started and didn't "respectfully" comment (making pooh jokes, I wasn't trying to engage seriously in a discussion and back the mod action).

Let's make this easy, show me one example of what you're talking about so my mind can be changed.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.

No one's saying defederate.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 1 week ago

I am, but I already am.

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