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From where I'm sitting, it looks like death should not be the end in that case.

You can't perceive the passage of time when you are dead, so you're just going to experience dying and then immediate rebirth after the countless eons pass for that rare moment where entropy spontaneously reverses to form your mind again.

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[–] iie@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (9 children)

possibly disturbing existentialismwhen that distant mind forms, eons from now, will you experience it? or will it be a clone with your memories?

what if two identical minds form at the same time, both of which have your memories and thoughts? Which set of eyes will you look out of?

continuity of consciousness is a strange thing

in fact, the "two identical minds" example proves nothing, you could be both of them. A consciousness can be split: for example, if you separate the lobes of a person's brain, put each lobe in a new body, then regrow the missing lobes, you get two people who each can claim they are the original. That person's life seamlessly branched into two lives without interruption.

and what about interruption? does it matter? if you delete a person's atoms for a nanosecond, then restore them, do you have the original or a clone? I doubt we'll ever know. If consciousness can survive a total interruption, if the same life resumes afterward, then I start to wonder if we are all packets of a single consciousness. On the other hand, if consciousness can't survive an interruption, then I start to wonder if we are constantly dying from one instant to the next, a series of clones like frames of a film.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (8 children)

A consciousness can be split: for example, if you separate the lobes of a person's brain, put each lobe in a new body, then regrow the missing lobes, you get two people who each can claim they are the original.

Don't even need to separate the lobes, let alone create separate bodies for this.

On the other hand, if consciousness can't survive an interruption, then I start to wonder if we are constantly dying from one instant to the next, a series of clones like frames of a film.

Meh, in real life it's experimentally and experientially identical to consciousness surviving an interruption. This is just like solipsism circle jerking. Use diamat

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Agreed with the use diamat. Everything is constantly changing, constantly dying. Hypothetical idealist arguments are silly, it’s understood by quantum physics.

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