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.ml readers interpretation: Tanks (fighting for democracy) brutally killed students
Don't lump us all in with those naive authoritarian children. Some of us believe the internet deserves a better class of communist.
Or in reality, tanks stop, the driver gets out and talks to the guy.
Do you really believe that is what happened? That tanks were used to kill protesters?
No the tanks were there as part of a humanitarian mission /s
No. how could I? Armored tanks are EXCLUSIVELY implements of peace, they are NEVER used lethally or to inflict harm. The Chinese military DEFINITELY brought in armored tanks for peaceful, humanitarian reasons.
Did you cleverly infer that from the fact that I said, "no"? Or were their other subtle clues you picked up on?
The pictures of dead, maimed, mutilated civilian corpses and crushed bicycles/cars were actually staged by the protesters to frame the kind, peaceful Chinese military, who were only there to have friendly dialogue with the protestors.
Yes, haha, look how fake it is
As we all know, militaries NEVER use tanks to kill or injure people. They actually mostly use them to transport puppies and kittens, and the army's very best huggers to spread love and joy :)
And this isn't even the worst one. There is one that looks vaguely similar but with ALL bodies instead of bicycles, so NSFL I committed I would never repost it anywhere.
Yeah, I actually didn't want to pull up the worst ones because I was on a work computer.
So what are the 2 (or more) bodies lying on and around the bicycles? Including the one in the back that seems to be missing a head?
Exactly, because there were no civilians maimed or killed ;) Heck, tanks literally CAN'T maim or kill people, that's not what they're made for. Militaries exclusively bring in tanks to help spread love and peace and good vibes.
Actually, if you've seen the pictures of the military armed with rifles marching around the city that day, did you know that those were just the kind with the flag that pops out and says 'BANG!'? Haha they were just trying to give everybody a good laugh to ease the tension. And it WORKED and NO ONE GOT HURT!
I'm not going to seriously engage with your bullshit historical revisionism any more than I would seriously engage with a holocaust denier.
Considering holocaust denial requires whole cloth fabrication of evidence and whatever people are doing itt just requires a more detailed reading of the primary sources I’d hold off on equating the two.
It’s easy to step in the double genocide hole if you’re not looking out for it.
https://archive.ph/7Tdzh
specifically:
spoiler
Any other questions?
Please tell me you aren't this dumb
I mean, there is that photo of a bunch of crushed human bodies under tank treads that nobody likes to reference.
As it's not NSFL, I'm not posting. After seeing that image, I lost all doubt that the massacre happened exactly as we know.
And no, I don't intend this to convince you. I don't think seeing the photo would convince you either.
There are actual images of that happening. It's genuinely an undisputable event.
Not denying it happened, but I couldn't find any images of such. Although it won't do much to change the minds of some people, linking or embedding the actual image would make your statement much stronger :)
Someone already produced the "crushed bicycle" picture here with a couple crushed/mutilated bodies. It's not the only one, but it strikes a chord of being the least NSFL while still proving the event.
Looks like they were posted here after my comment. Pro-CCP people are probably still going to find a way to justify it for the greater good or something like that, but at least now they can't deny there are photos.
I'm getting bugged for the other photo heavy now, by people telling me they can give back with photos of "the mob burning people". Pro-CCP people don't even consider the basically-confession and disagreement of the leader of the Communist party (which led to his long-term house-arrest).
https://archive.ph/7Tdzh
specifically:
spoiler
Any other questions?
CCP agent detected ( •_•)>⌐■-■
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_at_the_1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Tank_encounters_students_at_Liubukou and other accounts.
Does that whole section quote only a single source in Chinese that I can't read? Yes. You can believe it or not, I don't care. Assuming that your curiosity into why people believe that protesters got mowed down by tanks is genuine, this should answer your question.
That's a fairly weak counterpoint. It seems really meaningless who died or didn't, the state crushed protests. A lot of ml assertion about the west is accurate but then to turn around to be blindly nationalist. Additionally, Mao was not a good leader. He likely was fairly correct in his goals, but a failure in methodology and leadership. Largely because of nationalism and the state.
What are you even responding to? I didn't say anything about Mao, who died vs surviving, or what people think about the West. I wasn't even making a counterpoint, I was indulging someone's genuine curiosity.
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