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It's insane that this bullshit can be pushed again and again and again. It gives me some comfort that they have still not succeeded, but they only need to succeed once, and if they are not blocked from putting this forward again, we would have to succeed again and again and again.
It would help if European voters stopped behaving like spoiled children and voting for wannabe dictators because inflation or immigration or whatever.
It's hard to avoid when all our parties are in favor of this garbage.
Parties are the expression of voters. There is a general unease about immigration. To some extent I understand this. When people's status quo is at risk defensive walls go up. In Italy they worried about the 150000 people that cross the Mediterranean each year, yet the population keeps declining in that country. There is no way to sustain growth with a declining population unless you change the economics of that country. But here to its a mess in Italy. Their debt is huge.
Then run for election. That's the point of democracy. If our leaders are bad, there's no one to blame but ourselves.
Obligatory addendum: A downvote does not constitute a counter-argument.
The problem is countries like Hungary, where 70% of the population is rural, don't speak a word of English and all they consume is state controlled terrestrial media
Agreed, it's definitely a problem. And in fact it's even worse because it turns out that today's supposedly progressive and well-informed youngsters in fact get their news from TikTok and tend to vote for authoritarian populists even in western Europe.
Again: downvoting facts, sticking one's fingers in one's ears and going "lalalalala", does not make the facts go away. It is an inconvenient fact that far-right parties across Europe are doing particularly well among young voters.
I find it kind of ironic how you complain about downvotes while supporting democracy. I'm not saying whether I agree or disagree with you, I'm not saying either if I think you are right or wrong. But just like in a democracy votes represent the opinion of those who decided to vote. Being right won't mean you get the votes. You should just accept them and stop complaining about them.
No, adding something useful to the discussion should get you a vote. The fact that other idiots agree with you does not magically make your contribution thoughtful, or insightful, or productive in any other way.
You can't run for politics unless you're already a known figure with a wide reach. Please don't pretend that our iteration of democracy isn't extremely insular and gatekept.
With this can-do attitude, we're really gonna get things changing!
You make it sound like it's trivial to get a position of political power when said position is already being vied for by several people, many of which have way more money and resources than the average lemming
I'm not educated enough to have an opinion on this, but is the EU different from other places in terms of requiring a lot of expensive campaigning to have any chance to win?
Yes, it's very different from the USA. Campaign spending is tightly limited. In most EU countries, political parties get the majority of their funding from the state, paid on the basis of past election results.
Even more insane that almost 2/3 of countries support this.
Authoritarianism is very tempting to people in power, but can be hard to sell in the physical world. In the digital world however....
"You can't vote a fascist away."