this post was submitted on 06 Dec 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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Like the lives of those cut short by denying treatment so CEOs and shareholders can make more money?
Oh, fuck off. If God exists and actually cared, he/she/they would have "judged" the guy a long time ago for introducing needless suffering and cruelty.
Is a great argument for jury nullification. Because that will allow for god to decide the shooters verdict.
I mean, needless suffering and cruelty are kinda that god's bag...
That's why I added "and actually cared" :)
god is the most cruel entity in the entirety of the bible. kills the most people, causes the most suffering. how anyone can read that book and come away with a positive view of that beast is unfathomable.
I agree, but that wasn't quite the point I was trying to make.
The moderator was on a moral superiority high-horse by suggesting that "only God may judge" a guy who served as the judge for other's lives through complacent inaction and encouraging policies that put personal gain over humanity.
The only way that argument wouldn't have been hypocritical is if he agreed that God was a cruel bastard, and I don't think that was the case.
ahh yep, great points.
God judged and sent an assassin if we’re gonna play the whole believe in god game
If god is omnipotent, everything that happens is a result of his judgement.
Omnipotent, omnipresent, and benevolent, yes.
Benevolent is very debatable gestures widely at genocide and children dying of cancer
Indeed.
Note that I'm not claiming anything, just pointing out the traditional philosophical parameters of what-is-or-isn't-'god'.
Even going by their own books calling god benevolent is a stretch
Which - oh that god. Yes. That one is particularly, um, violent.
I’m referring to the abrahamic one…. I don’t know enough about Hinduism or other religions that have gods to have an opinion on them.
It is impossible for a being to be omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent given the amount of suffering in the world. They can only be two of the three at most:
Omnipotent + omniscient = Knows about evil, can stop it, but chooses not to.
Omnipotent + benevolent = Can do something about evil and wants to stop it, is too oblivious to on a large scale.
Omniscient + benevolent = Knows about evil and wants to stop it, is powerless to do anything significant about it.
Yeah, that's the way most people see it.
As it happens, people don't generally talk about it very much. For some reason.
If they're believers it's because god is "good" no matter what he does or allows to happen.