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Elon Musk’s vocal support for Donald Trump and promotion of far-right conspiracy theories has alienated many Tesla owners, who now express embarrassment over their cars.

Sales of anti-Musk stickers, such as “Anti Elon Tesla Club,” have surged as owners distance themselves from Musk’s politics.

Once admired by liberals for his environmental advocacy, Musk’s alignment with Trump and leadership in his administration have sparked backlash.

While Tesla remains the dominant EV maker, analysts warn Musk’s polarizing image may impact sales as competition grows and Trump plans to cut EV tax incentives.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I appreciate the gender neutrality, it made me wonder: are there any women who voluntarily own a cyber truck? Every douchebag I see in or posing with one is a guy.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

are there ANY women who voluntarily own a cyber truck?

Emphasis by me.
That's a weird question, because obviously there are some, probably about 12% according to stats:
https://motorandwheels.com/pickup-truck-demographics-segments/

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

12% of pickup truck owners being women absolutely does not mean 12% of cyber truck owners are women, that’s truck ownership by women among all brands.

I’m saying I think one brand and one specific truck model probably is doing even worse among women than trucks in general.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You wrote any to which the obvious answer is yes. And it's not so hard to find evidence:
https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/celebrities-who-bought-a-tesla-cybertruck/

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Why would you proudly state you were using hyperbole?
Also you don't have to link the meaning of the word, I'm familiar with common words, if you are not I'd be happy to link a whole dictionary to you:
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hyperbole

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's not many women who own trucks in general, cyber or otherwise.

[–] Batman@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm going to need some data for that one before I believe it. In the US, I have known many women who own trucks. I have lived in rural and urban areas and both had plenty of women who owned and drove trucks, including semi cabs. I could believe less by comparison but not "not many" without some data.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Obviously it's relatively, compared to men.
Indirectly implied, women have a generally better safety record than men, and Trucks have the worst safety record. So there might be a trend that fewer women than men drive trucks for safety reasons.
In my experience women generally prefer smaller cars, which also would mean that trucks are not generally preferred by women.
Also when you look at professional cargo truck drivers, there's an overwhelming majority of men.
Trucks and pickup trucks are used for things that are bulky and heavy, women generally don't do as much physical heavy lifting as men.

All these facts, put together with personal experience, that indeed more men than women drive trucks, fit together, and I see absolutely no evidence against it.

You can very quickly make your own survey. Go to Youtube and search cybertruck or just truck, and see how many men and women post either.

Edit:
I just did the youtube search myself, and I had to scroll past 20 videos before the first featuring a woman turned up, something about the 70's being great?!

Edit 2:
https://motorandwheels.com/pickup-truck-demographics-segments/

88% of pickup truck buyers identify as male.

[–] Batman@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This whole thing reads like an advertising piece: Everybody buys pickup trucks disregarding age or gender, and the only thing that can make them give it up is not having sex... Seems like garbage to me. This is NOT consistent with my pretty obvious findings on youtube, and the research I posted earlier.
The study I linked to is much less biased, and reflected my findings looking at youtube videos.

Here's another study that shows very similar results to the one I posted earlier:

https://www.zippia.com/pick-up-truck-driver-jobs/demographics/

Male, 89.7%
Female, 10.3%

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just an anecdotal observation. A very small amount of trucks I see have women driving them. Could be lots of reasons for that but the simplest seems to be that women don't buy them near as often. I don't feel like an offhand remark needs a citation, though you're welcome to look it up if you find the subject interesting enough to warrant further research.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have no idea how such an obvious observation can be downvoted? It's an easily verifiable fact that women don't drive trucks as much as men.

https://motorandwheels.com/pickup-truck-demographics-segments/

88% of pickup truck buyers identify as male.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't officially cite my eyeballs when I posted my observation. Apparently that is a mortal sin to some people here.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Another explanation is that women who buy trucks are more likely to also buy tinted windows. Which is reasonable because both are ways a woman can feel more secure and protected in a vehicle.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are plenty of Ag women around me driving trucks. And if we're including SUVs, which the cybertruck is more similar to then any real truck, that number goes way up. Especially among mothers, toxic maternity pushes SUV sales. "I just don't seem safe picking up little Timmy in anything other then a 3 ton tank."

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously, since an SUV is considered a great family car.

https://motorandwheels.com/pickup-truck-demographics-segments/

88% of pickup truck buyers identify as male.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That doesn't mean that SUVs are good family vehicles. Station Wagons and Minivans existed before SUV. The added weight of SUVs only created a danger for other drivers and pedestrians.

[–] Batman@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I'm just dropping this here too. I don't want the previous stat being cited as absolute fact when it seems there is quite a variance on who did what study.

https://mobile.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/55986/5-surprising-facts-about-pickups-and-their-owners/ https://www.core77.com/posts/100454/Surprising-Design-Research-Insights-About-Pickup-Truck-Owners

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't get me wrong, I hate SUV's, but they are still widely considered to be good family vehicles.
Despite being overkill in most cases IMO. They are to big uneconomic and dangerous.
And the concept kind of started in the mid 80's with the dodge Caravan introduced by Chrysler.