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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Making trans people with combat knowlodge unemployed for a transphobic reason doesn't seem like a good idea.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

chuds in the US military will never do something good, there's a whole thing about homeless "veterans", never saw them revolt

[–] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Bonus Army did, and the feds gassed them in the middle of DC.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bonus Army was filled with ex-conscripts. Modern veterans were all volunteers, so they are bootlickers or selfish opportunists at heart without any type of solidarity. They lack the ingredients for an uprising

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

People can be radicalized within the service, like Aaron Bushnell.

But absent conscription I don't think the armed forces are fertile grounds, which is an absolute shame.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Lol beat me to it

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We actually did have unemployed (a lot of homeless as well) veterans revolt back in 1932 during the Great Depression, demanding early payment of their service bonus certificates.
About 43,000 of them camped with their families on the White House lawn for a while, and the president at the time, Herbert Hoover, sent tanks and bayonets in and they killed a few people and injured dozens. Patton led the charge and Eisenhower wrote the military report endorsing the action (though he claims he told Patton not to do it). It was called the "Bonus Army" if you want to do some more reading.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1932, that's older than Joe Biden Also it's ignoring an important part, most U.S. army members aren't from poor families anymore, most can afford not killing kids for a job.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

They were also conscripts from WW1, not volunteer mercenaries who joined up with glee to kill Muslims

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of them were also suspected of being involved with the Business Plot, which would have ushered in a Nazi dictatorship. Luckily they approached the wrong general to carry out the plot, but the plan was to use the Bonus Army to do it since they found enough sympathizers to go along with it.

Who knows, though. Had they approached officers in charge of the Bonus Army directly, maybe they would have been rebuffed all the same.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's wild, I've never heard this side of the story!

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The general they approached was Smedley Butler (I forgot to mention). He wrote War is a Racket, which you've probably heard of or read.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Besides WW1 vets. Many post-vietnam vets turned in far-right terrorists. Oklahoma City bombing is an example of this. I guess the only recent cool veteran was Chris Dorner.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

It's as stupid as expecting SS officers to be leftist revolutionaires post WWII, no mf

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Even then Chris Dorner was more Cop than Troop and was upset about other cops being racist to him more than anything.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the other hand, it seems like a tactical victory for communism

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

at the very least a great opportunity for agitprop

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope any of them with good opsec manage to leak a whole bunch of classified information on their way out.

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have Chelsea Manning, but what about Chelsea Manning 2

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Second Manning