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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 52 points 4 days ago

Literally the only concrete thing russia wants is no nato membership, i feel like im in groundhog day.

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago

Libs seem very unconditional-surrender-brained about this conflict. Even concept of considering Russian desires in a potential peace settlement makes them so fucking angry.

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 41 points 4 days ago

Eventually, once there are no more avenues left to help Ukraine without triggering nuclear war or losing thousands of NATO soldiers, they will simply pretend to have won the war, and pull all remaining support.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 40 points 4 days ago

Us Finns have pretended we won the Winter and Continuation Wars for almost 80 years, it'll be fine

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

Liberals get really excited, even sexually aroused, at the thought of people dying in a ditch for a cause... as long as it's someone else. libbing-out

[-] edge@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

very unconditional-surrender-brained about this conflict

Considering the only actual usage of nuclear weapons so far was for that exact reason, it's not looking good.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

reality will collide with their willful idealistic daydreaming

[-] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

We all hope that is the case, but Liberals keep coming up with new and exiciting ways to deny reality. See for instance also the Finnish campaign to paint themselves as the winners of the Winter War and the deliberate exclusion of anything regarding the Continuation war.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Russia was loudly saying this in December 2021 (and for decades prior) but the US pretended it was about fReEdOm of association

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