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[-] enkifish@hexbear.net 82 points 3 weeks ago

I think we’re in an age when nuclear deterrent is actually less effective because the West is very unlikely to use anything like a nuclear bomb, whereas our adversaries might

doubt

Anyway, good luck on that three front war

[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 83 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Let's take a look at a comprehensive list of countries that have used nukes against others:

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Based on this, we conclude that the US is less likely to use nukes against others. I'm very smart

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago

Not only that but the US spent the entirety of the Cold War trying to either use nukes again or find some way to deploy nukes to every soldier and conflict possible, with everything from nuclear demolition charges to artillery shells

Given their way the US would arm every soldier with a nuclear rifle if they could

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago

Given their way the US would arm every soldier with a nuclear rifle if they could

Oh they tried!

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

Many years ago at reddit - I saw that somebody had made a nuke "Davy Crockett" joke. For about 10 seconds I had this dialog with myself in my head "That can't be real. But could it? But it can't. Davy Crockett? How can that be real. I'm the world's dumbest man - I'll google." I still can't believe they named it Davy Crockett.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago

You could apparently theoretically make an nuclear hand grenade using californium, but it's completely impractical since you would need 2,7 kg of it, while the yearly production is below 1 g and it have halflife of 2,6 year.

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Talk about an Unholy Hand Grenade sicko-no

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

And there's a small caveat that a man throwing such a grenade would be inevitably caught in the blast.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

I’m sure it’s more fun than taking a cyanide pill.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Carrying an ultra light nuclear device stripped from all possible parts to make it throwable also wouldn't help the health of user, but it's not like Uncle Sam ever cared.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the US deployed backpack-sized nuclear weapons to Europe for decades as part of a stay-behind Gladio type operation, whose intent was to detonate nukes guerilla style in a Soviet-overrun Europe

The Littlest Boy | Foreign Policy

linking an archive because this article has suspiciously been removed from FP's website, just loads a blank page.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There was also a plan during the cold war in case of war where US would nuke every transport node in Poland (that is basically every city above 20000 inhabitants) to block Soviet and Polish armies from reinforcing East Germany. And of course it didn't plan to bomb even East Germany itself, they are not Slavs after all.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

they are not Slavs after all

It's like these plans were written by former nazis or something lea-think

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Definitely not the Prussian junkers who would want lands back, just slightly radioactive from all the fallout being blown from Polish Wastelands.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

TBH, some highway interchanges in FRG built in 1960s included slots for a nuclear device to completely level all infrastructure around.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago

Let's also consider the stances of those countries on a nuclear first strike:

  • China: Unambiguous "No First Use", with no exceptions
  • Iran: Doesn't even have nukes and afaik has been cleared of ever trying to do so by international inspectors
  • Russia: Reserves the right to use nuclear weapons if WMD are deployed against itself or its allies or if the very existence of the state is threatened with conventional warfare
  • The US: Still has full first use.

For fun, the other countries with nukes:

  • The UK: Has openly stated they will use nukes in a pre-emptive strike, officially has no stance on a "No First Use" policy in order to "keep its enemies guessing"
  • Israel: Doesn't have nukes (winkwinknudgenudge) but would 300% use them if they did
  • India: No first use against states without nukes
  • Pakistan: Full first use.
  • North Korea: First use if they get attacked
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