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[-] enkifish@hexbear.net 82 points 2 months ago

I think we’re in an age when nuclear deterrent is actually less effective because the West is very unlikely to use anything like a nuclear bomb, whereas our adversaries might

doubt

Anyway, good luck on that three front war

[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 83 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Let's take a look at a comprehensive list of countries that have used nukes against others:

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Based on this, we conclude that the US is less likely to use nukes against others. I'm very smart

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 54 points 2 months ago

Not only that but the US spent the entirety of the Cold War trying to either use nukes again or find some way to deploy nukes to every soldier and conflict possible, with everything from nuclear demolition charges to artillery shells

Given their way the US would arm every soldier with a nuclear rifle if they could

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

Given their way the US would arm every soldier with a nuclear rifle if they could

Oh they tried!

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Many years ago at reddit - I saw that somebody had made a nuke "Davy Crockett" joke. For about 10 seconds I had this dialog with myself in my head "That can't be real. But could it? But it can't. Davy Crockett? How can that be real. I'm the world's dumbest man - I'll google." I still can't believe they named it Davy Crockett.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago

You could apparently theoretically make an nuclear hand grenade using californium, but it's completely impractical since you would need 2,7 kg of it, while the yearly production is below 1 g and it have halflife of 2,6 year.

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Talk about an Unholy Hand Grenade sicko-no

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

And there's a small caveat that a man throwing such a grenade would be inevitably caught in the blast.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I’m sure it’s more fun than taking a cyanide pill.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Carrying an ultra light nuclear device stripped from all possible parts to make it throwable also wouldn't help the health of user, but it's not like Uncle Sam ever cared.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the US deployed backpack-sized nuclear weapons to Europe for decades as part of a stay-behind Gladio type operation, whose intent was to detonate nukes guerilla style in a Soviet-overrun Europe

The Littlest Boy | Foreign Policy

linking an archive because this article has suspiciously been removed from FP's website, just loads a blank page.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There was also a plan during the cold war in case of war where US would nuke every transport node in Poland (that is basically every city above 20000 inhabitants) to block Soviet and Polish armies from reinforcing East Germany. And of course it didn't plan to bomb even East Germany itself, they are not Slavs after all.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

they are not Slavs after all

It's like these plans were written by former nazis or something lea-think

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Definitely not the Prussian junkers who would want lands back, just slightly radioactive from all the fallout being blown from Polish Wastelands.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

TBH, some highway interchanges in FRG built in 1960s included slots for a nuclear device to completely level all infrastructure around.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Let's also consider the stances of those countries on a nuclear first strike:

  • China: Unambiguous "No First Use", with no exceptions
  • Iran: Doesn't even have nukes and afaik has been cleared of ever trying to do so by international inspectors
  • Russia: Reserves the right to use nuclear weapons if WMD are deployed against itself or its allies or if the very existence of the state is threatened with conventional warfare
  • The US: Still has full first use.

For fun, the other countries with nukes:

  • The UK: Has openly stated they will use nukes in a pre-emptive strike, officially has no stance on a "No First Use" policy in order to "keep its enemies guessing"
  • Israel: Doesn't have nukes (winkwinknudgenudge) but would 300% use them if they did
  • India: No first use against states without nukes
  • Pakistan: Full first use.
  • North Korea: First use if they get attacked
[-] miz@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

the projection is off the charts

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

You think the stock market crashes when they try shit with China?

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

My guess is it spikes as everyone pumps up MIC stocks and then craters when ships start sinking the next day

[-] nightshade@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Extremely critical support to the engineers who made US warships touchscreen-controlled.

[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

They have to scan a QR code to fire missiles

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

What if bad Tesla controls but on a huge expensive ship?

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 58 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Man who earns living from defense spending spreads baseless fears of coming war

manhattan

[-] trompete@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago

New talking point to get bigger defense contracts just dropped. And he has another one:

"I think we’re in an age when nuclear deterrent is actually less effective because the West is very unlikely to use anything like a nuclear bomb, whereas our adversaries might," he added. "Where you have technological parity but moral disparity, the actual disparity is much greater than people think."

Karp continued: "In fact, given that we have parity technologically but we don’t have parity morally, they have a huge advantage."

Imagine thinking the US has the moral high ground, and that having the moral high ground is a disadvantage.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago

given that we have parity technologically

oh like hypersonic missiles, right anakin-padme-2

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He claims the West is too moral to effectively fight these opponents, who would use unscrupulous means.

Hahaha what the fuck?

It’s just pure vibes. The Middle Eastern wars never happened. Or maybe actually it was China that did all that.

The US wouldn’t stand a chance against all three at once. Delusional moron.

[-] smallpatatas@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I recently read a super weird essay written in ~~2017~~ 2007 by the other Palantir founder, Peter Thiel, called 'The Straussian Moment' - and it's wild how they're still talking about some of the exact same things.

For anyone wanting insight into the particular brand of fascism coming out of silicon valley these days, it's worth a read.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Losing two wars simultaneously in Iraq and Afghanistan wasn't good enough, we need to lose three instead

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

That one scene from Office Space where he asks his neighbor what his dream is but he says, "Shit man, losing three wars at the same time"

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Eh, they accomplished their objectives (enriching the MIC and oil companies). I don't really consider that a loss.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Short term success vs long term losses. Yeah they made some profits during the war, but they would have preferred these countries to be allied so they can siphon more off over time

[-] miz@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the U.S. is unable to dictate terms to Yemen but this dullard thinks it can fight two nuclear-armed states (both of which have demonstrably better production capacity) and a major regional power all at the same time

[-] dirtybeerglass@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Select CEO mode

  1. Beg Mode - your CEO will lobby and harangue Government for free money the public purse.
  2. Sell Mode - your CEO will make wild “I am the main character “ predictions about the future, on randomly selected topics, no qualifications are required
  3. Power off
[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

So this is why you need my perpetual global spyware!

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

Three front wars famously go well for empires.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, every time an empire has been in major decline, they've just fought a massive war with all of their biggest enemies simultaneously and it just works out fine for them.

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

"The president needs to tell them if you cross these lines, this is what we’re going to do, and you have to then enforce it."

isntrael has entered the chat

[-] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 months ago

I mean, that's what he's doing, what with all the weapons and financial support.

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

biden-point zionist-despair

If you cross this line, I'll tell you what I'll do! I'll give you more weapons!

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Palantir is CIA funded. I believe wholeheartedly that they will a try to start up a new cold war..

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Start? We're 5+ years in, mate

[-] coolusername@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It came from In-q-tel so it's basically 100% CIA
Companies that are controlled by the CIA can't help but say dumb shit. Look at notepad++ and Proton as two examples.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

What have I missed about both of them?

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[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

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[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

"You can trust me, I spy on everything" -Spyguy McSubterfuge working for Clandestine Inc.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

that seems to be the plan... the empire is gonna fall hard and fast

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

nicholson-yes

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