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[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (24 children)

It's interesting how you only draw comparisons with CPUSA. You claim that it has "the most potential to be the groundwork for a future party." I would contend, however, that the PSL is a current party that people can organize with today.

You're Marxist Leninists, yet you do not organize under the principles of democratic centralism. Why not? Do you intend to somehow transform the DSA into a democratic centralist organization? Do you really believe that the liberals, social democrats, and democratic socialists that comprise most of the DSA would just go along with that? You can't expect to just take the existing membership of the DSA and magically convert them into a committed Marxist Leninist cadre.

As it stands, the DSA are not principled anti-imperialists, as evidenced by their failure to take a principled stance in support of Palestinian resistance in the wake of Al-Aqsa Flood, or their anti-communist stances on Cuba and AES. This isn't a "past" issue, it's ongoing. How do you address that? Why is it the "correct" strategy to attempt entryism into the DSA instead of joining a real, existing Marxist Leninist party?

[–] ch1l@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Genuine question, I spent time with CPUSA and DSA, and still will go to events if they align with my values, but have largely found that the membership are primarily liberals who are very socially progressive, but ultimately only really care about domestic policy. Is the PSL considered more serious? I felt burned by the other two, but want to still be involved in local efforts where I can.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Check out FRSO if they're active where you live. We're explicitly ML and small but cool

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh wait did you actually end up joining FRSO? That's dope! How's it been so far?

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good so far! I got a call from national leadership right away, who put me in touch with local leadership. I went to a general membership meeting and I'm meeting again today with someone to work through the theory study packet for new members. Everyone seems cool and communist, which is what I was looking for

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

Hell yeah, that's fucking awesome. I hope y'all do very well and that one day our movements are able to join together, either by forming a unity party or by struggling together officially. I've seen what you say on here and I have to say that I trust you when you say if it's working out and good then it's working out extremely well and is very good.

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