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China has installed more electric vehicle charging stations in the past 73 days than the United States has installed in the past ever (hexbear.net)

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[-] hexthismess@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Like Ryan said, it is green washing if it's viewed as the end to climate change. The best solution is mass public transit and ending fossil fuel use.

The efficiency of fossil fuel power plant production is greater than the efficiency of a single ICE car, so the overall emissions are lower, but emissions will grow the more people drive.

Now if the power source changes from fossil fuels, then the emissions go down a lot, except for what is needed to exploit resources to make the cars and the power production.

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

it is green washing if it's viewed as the end to climate change.

I don’t think this is the definition of green washing. Something doesn’t have to be the be all and end all solution to climate change to be a form green washing.

The efficiency of fossil fuel power plant production is greater than the efficiency of a single ICE car, so the overall emissions are lower, but emissions will grow the more people drive.

I think this is a reply that would change my mind on the effectiveness of evs and would like to see any studies that proove this.

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2024/01/electric-vehicles-use-half-the-energy-of-gas-powered-vehicles/

Though I get a feeling you're just trying to be anti-China for some reason or other.

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Though I get a feeling you're just trying to be anti-China for some reason or other.

This is what happens when you’re on a hair trigger about everything China. I’m not anti-China.

[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

It was one thing when you made your initial comments. But at this point, you are just splitting hairs.

It is just a fact that evs reduce emissions compared to ices, and will reduce them even further in the future given the track china is on.

Like even you argue that the better solution is public transit, china has been developing that too. Or say you have a problem with steel production, or concrete manufacturing, or literally every major source of pollution, Chinese industry is fucking working on it and making progress quickly.