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[-] danielton@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The enshittification of Opera sucks... I used to like them when they had their own Presto rendering engine. I heard Vivaldi is the spiritual successor, but it, too, is based on Chromium.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Vivaldi isn't just the spiritual successor, it's built by the guy who made the original Opera. Its baked in Ad and Tracker blocking rival UBO and it has all the features Fox can only hope to barely emulate with Mozilla extensions.

I've got FF loaded up and set up how I like, but I won't be switching over until Vivaldi doesn't perform correctly.

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Vivaldi

So re-badged Chromium with closed source changes. Dependent on the upstream chromium. Doesnt seem like a good idea to me.

[-] danielton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hah you beat me to it. That's why I said "spiritual," because it's still Chromium under the hood.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How do you know it's dependent? Cant anyone make a fork of the engine?

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It isnt a fork though, its just built on top of. Which is probably smarter than a fork, they dont have to do all that other work. It is interesting that the web hints and the user agent now say Chrome in the vavaldi reporting. At least I think it did: search for "what is my user agent" and it will tell you.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure I did exactly what you intended but I searched it in the address/search bar and it gives me this output.

"Your user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/114.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/6.1.3035.257"

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Wow thats kind of new too. Covering all bases, lol.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

At first I thought I did it wrong, since I got an output for basically every browser engine on the market. Does the order matter? I'm just a network engineer I don't know much about systems beyond building hardware and installing/managing Windows and some PnP Linux Distros.

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I should have directed you here: https://www.whatsmybrowser.org

or use whatever search result you want for "what browser am i using". It will tell you what I was trying to demonstrate.

No order does not matter, in the first thing we did it simply is announcing that it is capable to handle requests as if it was any of those browsers/versions. This second link is more to to the point.

Still, if you are happy with it, fine. I just find it somewhat depressing/worrysome that there are basically 2 choices no matter what browser you choose: Chrome (or webkit based) and Firefox. That is it. (Well ok or Safari. KHTML based - which was a fork of KDE's Konqueror. )

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