That out of the way... !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world has clearly been slipping from the purpose of the comm for a while now. Most of the posts are actually infuriating and/or political. I understand that what qualifies as either of those can be different for different people, but I feel most of this shit clearly isn't mundane or simple enough to fall under the label of just mildly infuriating.

Here's some examples from the first page right now, sorted by scaled.

While I could have sworn the sidebar had a no politics rule, it doesn't at the time of me writing this up, so politics are arguably acceptable, although I personally feel these all clearly don't match the theme of the community, violating Rule 7.

Sidebar, and expanded rule 7

A few other posts have been made calling this out.

Mod harder and [META] What actually constitutes "mildly infuriating" content?

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Beyond all that mess, we have what was the final straw for me.

Rule 1 (and less so 5), and the current top post by scaled, hot, and active.

I cannot accept that a post to mildly infuriating that targets a specific user while not even removing their username is respectful, and I personally consider it harassment (while it may not violate rule 5 as there is no call to action). Removing the username is usually the bare minimum even in the fucking reddit brigading subs, for plausible deniability.

And regardless of whatever arguments can be had about interpretations of the community's specific rules, it's a dick move. Just block the guy. It reminds me of the god awful reddit dogpiling and brigading. I don't want any of that to come to lemmy.

So I reported it, then saw the recent posts asking mods for action that got no response. I then looked at the mods.

• LillianVS@lemmy.world (Aer) has not been active in two years.
• STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world (Striker) has not been active in one year.
• Tenthrow@lemmy.world had not appeared to be active for six days at the time I reported the post, but upon checking the community mod log was likely active two days before (assuming that the other two wouldn't be just lurking and modding for over a year).

So I did something dumb as hell. Roughly an hour after I reported it, I made my own post (now removed from the comm). I find people who make call out posts about others, and the absentee mods allowing it, mildly infuriating. Yeah, childish as shit. What's done is done.

Modlog:

Removed for "doesn't fit community", but what do you folks think? Does it really not fit when the top post is what it is? Personally I think both should be gone, lest that comm descend further into shit.

Either way, now that I have this yell into the void out of me, I'm blocking the comm. Maybe I should have made my post in actually infuriating? (kidding)

interestingly, I was subscribed on other lemmy.ml communities where I was not banned.. but hey , now, I banned the instance... so we're even I guess

Yesterday, there was a bot that made a ton of posts in different communities. The mods of ttrrpg.network banned that user, and about 20 other people were also banned from several communities each on ttrpg.network (including me) with the reason given "Account used to boost spambot account" (for me it was all the communities on that server that I was subscribed to, but I wasn't actually banned from the instance):

The mods also made a pinned post in that sub (it's unpinned now) where they explain their reasoning some more:

Just got done investigating a spambot we had earlier, and it looks like they used a lot of compromised accounts on other instances to give their post an initial upvote boost. If you don’t already, please remember to use a good strong password.

I do remember interacting with at least one post from that bot, to me it looked fairly innocuous until I looked at the sheer volume of posts they made since the account was created. I assume that I'd notice if my account was hijacked, especially while I was still actively browsing lemmy, and my password is certainly not easily to bruteforce or guess. I also took a look at the profiles of the other users who were banned, there were quite a few who were still posting or commenting after they were banned from rpgmemes - none of those profiles looked suspicious to me, and many of the ones who didn't post or comment anything since then just weren't that active in the first place.

Frankly, I don't believe that any of those banned accounts were actually hacked. It looks to me like the mods just banned everyone who interacted with that bot. I understand that spambots are a big issue that is difficult to solve, but fediverse mods and admins need to be a lot more precise with dealing with that than this - the cure can't be worse than the poison.

I did message one community mod of rpgmemes and one of the server admins about this, but neither got back to me.

Link to post.

Let's start with that the mod of this sub, ramos, a 2 days old user, banned me because of "Spam and scam", when I asked for sources + I said "Hi I'm Taylor Swift, nice to meet you".

Here is the mod log link
https://sh.itjust.works/modlog/1639563
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Even when an another user comments " Can you please stop titling all your posts "BREAKING:", its incredibly clickbaity." comment gets removed for being scam.

I wouldn't even comment on his post, if he did provide a source or something that can validate what he posts, but posting images with "BREAKING" in capitals and some photo with text on it and no source, it looks like a facebook or twitter misinformation thing.

And I ask you now PTB, YDI, YDM, BPR or CLM?

Asked a question on an annoyingly written post blaming the secretary of defence (or wtf ever the title is) for causing the loss of aircraft. Dude's an absolute idiot, but he didn't personally drive an F/A 18 into the largest body of water known to man.

I have no time for pointless inflammatory bullshit. Put your energy into a useful fight.

Context

Didn't really have high hopes for this instance to begin with , but expected a lil better than this . Got called transphobe for this . Place's a boy's club thru & thru

And not to go into details about my personal life but , am genuinely triggered by these types of dudes that believe this bollocks . Unreal

Detailed explanation of wy trans(misandry|androphobia) dœsn't exist :

Question: “If transmisogyny exists, does transmisandry?”

Answer: Based on the ways I have seen transmisandry commonly defined, I would say no. Firstly, misandry as a form of systemic oppression does not exist — trans men are not discriminated against for being men, but for being trans. Secondly, transmascs do face a specific type of transphobia, but transphobia is not unique to transmascs, while transmisogyny (which is not transphobia) is unique to transfems. Simply put, transmisogyny is the culturally pervasive attitude (held and perpetuated by anyone who is not a transfem) of regarding trans women as a third class of gendered categorization altogether, because, to quote myself, “[transmisogynists] cannot dignify us as women, but cannot accurately misgender us as men either without calling the stability of male supremacy into question.” (This process is called “third-gendering” or “degendering,” and you can read more about it here.) Therefore, transmisogyny operates on a different level of gendered oppression altogether. Again, transmascs do face a specific type of transphobia unique to them, but they do not experience quite the same form of marginalization which trans women do.

-- https://transmisogyny-explained.carrd.co/

Argument about why an instance doesn't want to federate with another instance that's devoted to political trolling. Apparently that kind of behavior is simply a core tenet of the belief system, and to criticize it is to reject the whole ideology.

Modlog: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?userId=22989130

So, I made the same post of a Variety article covering how basically the entirety of US news agencies are refusing to comply with new Pentagon press standards, I posted this to multiple World/Global news comms on multiple instances...

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/pentagon-pete-hegseth-press-rules-fox-news-cnn-refuse-to-sign-1236552784/

... and my post to World News on lemmy.world, with ~200 upvotes in ~6 hours, 20 comments, was locked and removed with reason "Internal US News", at midnight my local time...

https://lemmy.world/post/37359472

(removed)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/55525545

(local mirror of same post)

... apparently the lemmy.world World News editorial team doesn't think it rises to the level of generally relevant to the entire world that basically all US media outlets (with the single exception of OAN, the most MAGA-culty news outlet) are unifying in a collective refusal to comply with the Trump Admin's new military reporting standards.

No other World/Global News comm on any other instance that I made this same post to acted similarly.

lemmy.zip Global News:

https://lemmy.zip/post/50994380

beehaw.org World News:

https://beehaw.org/post/22673636

(my internet is shitting itself right now and I can't load beehaw, will try to update later)

EDIT: internet's back up, link updated

lemmy.ml World News:

https://lemmy.ml/post/37548697

... the meta-irony of this is physically painful to me.

Sure would be neat if the lemmy.world admins followed through on their recent pledge to reevaluate the staffing of their mod teams.

Yeah, I don't know what's going on here. Looks like a mod having a breakdown. I posted the rest for context and I'm in the middle.

I got linked to the comment chain from elsewhere. The comment had a link to a tech dude's blog, supposed to point out his white supremecism. I didn't see anything bad in that article, but stumbled on another one with nazi apologia, thought they may have linked the wrong article, posted it. That's it. That's all I did.

I guess it is called awful.systems and the culture confuses me, but man, what a dick move to call me a facist in the modlog.

If nothing else, I hope this drama is entertaining.

Edit: Because this is, well, the internet: I was not defending DHH. Another removed/banned comment said they couldn't find anything bad in that link either, so I found one where DHH was being more blatant in his bullshit.

@jordanlund@lemmy.world just removed my post from !politics@lemmy.world because the linked article wasn't a "news" source.

The sidebar makes no mention of accepted news sources. And honestly, fuck that fascist nonsense. How the fuck can it be justified to remove posts from articles made by fucking non-profits?

I guess @jordanlund@lemmy.world is also saying that since they disagree with the premise of the article, it should be removed.

People need to be aware that !politics@lemmy.world should be avoided.

This is why I also posted the same thing to !usa@midwest.social

Trump is openly committing treason. He must be impeached and removed from office.

https://midwest.social/post/36857540

Link to the thread

https://lemmy.world/post/37144126

Got no post for this one. Literally no idea what he's even talking about. I also barely know who this guy is. I think I messaged him once in the past when I saw his name a bunch and I was being nice and diplomatic but otherwise? No idea who he is. The only time I've ever heard his name is by people saying stuff about him being an incredibly toxic and horrible human being on Lemmy. Which made it all the more hilarious to see this.

Come listen... let Stamets tell you a tale... the tale of a scared little poodle.

The only thing I've ever said about the dude recently was in the YePowerTrippingBastards matrix channel where I said that it's kind of hilarious that losers like him spend so much time getting angy and worked up over something to go after it again and again and again.

So lemme get the crayons and break it out for the false savior with breathing difficulties so severe he's going to choke on his own ego.

I make a post every now and again while occasionally pointing out the stupidity of others. You just seem to actively go after people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. See... I've got a hobby. You've got an obsession and one that's eating away at you pretty bad by the look of it. Wanna go out for a frappe buddy? Need a hug big guy?

Community description for ManufacturingConsent is "when the media decides who you are rooting for." So, being banned for questioning their narrative strikes me as absurdly funny. I mean, I guess if the idea of the community is that geneva_convenience should decide whom you root for, that would track.

The post in question: https://piefed.ca/post/266435

(I pointed out that the Guardian was probably including the hostages who died after the attacks. This really bugged OP and led to a ban.)

I don't really care for a remedy, seems a silly place. Just thought it was funny as heck.

(For what it's worth, like most, I side with Palestine but I think being accurate lends credence to our cause.)

cross-posted from: https://midwest.social/post/36729179

I got banded from ~~Hexbear~~ (I am dumb) a Hexbear community. Not that I am super sad about it. More confused...

This is the post that did me in: https://midwest.social/post/36684138/20435030

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Nothing will change if you don't believe it can. If all this does is delay fascism for a day. That's one less day of people dying and suffering for really stupid and avoidable reasons. Seriously, what's the point of your comment? Are you trying to get me bummed out and not vote? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Yes, I agree. This is simply a stop gap measure. I'm not saying to stop doing all the other stuff like protesting and organizing. Voting is just one afternoon. For some people it's really easy to do, it's way easier than other stuff that you're probably already doing. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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I thought roe v wade was gone because Obama did kick Mitch McConnell in the nutz for not doing his job and appointing his supreme Court judge. What did Biden do to row v wade? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Cuz I don't need to engage with your material. This is sooooooo simple. Just vote for the guy who is less fascist. Are you confused about whether fascism is bad? Guess what? It's bad! Lots of innocent people dying bad. Are you confused about which presidential candidate is the least fascist? That would be Biden. You should vote for him. Everyone should vote for him in this next election. This is your 100th chance to not come off as a fascist supporter. You better take it! by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Define failed practice? What do you think would have happened if Biden had lost the last election to Trump? Four years of Trump almost tore this country to pieces. I'm sorry fighting is hard. I'm not asking you to be pro-democrat. I'm just asking you not to doomer everyone into not voting at all. Guess what? Fascists vote and they organize and they don't get doomer about this stuff. If you're not going to help then get out of the way. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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First of all, you're confusing me with somebody who likes the Democrats. I don't. I don't like either party. Second of all, why the hell are you acting like there's a third choice between a Democrat and Republican? When was the last time an independent candidate came even close to winning? We currently only have two choices for president. I beg of you or anyone else that is reading this. Please vote for the less fascist one. Again, I don't like this. But acting like there's absolutely no difference between Biden and Trump is the the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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I know! So simple right? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

mod Banned deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: west purginia, mountain mama (lib :farquaad-point:)

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If you have the numbers to start a violent revolution. You have the numbers to do reform. Unless you plan on dying a glorious death with no change in outcome. I'm not saying electoralism is the only answer. Keep protesting. Keep organizing. Keep spreading information. Do you know what would give you more time to build that revolutionary army? If Biden was president for four more years. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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I don't need to prove that Biden opposes fascism. I just have to prove the other candidate would be more fascist. We only have two choices. This should be really simple. Pick the one that's less fascist. Why is this so hard for you? Are you unsure which president would cause a less fascist outcome between Biden and Trump? This is really simple, it's Biden, vote Biden! Voting is one afternoon. Waiting in a line. Filling out a ballot. I know it sucks. Your feelings are valid. Vote Biden because fascism is bad. Do you know who's not going to vote Biden. All the fascists. They're going to be voting for whoever the Republican candidate is. Do you know who they really want? They want Hitler2 for president. Do you know what they're not doing? Complaining about that and doomering over it. This is incredibly simple. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Biden is better than a fascist. Seriously, what's the point of your comment? Are you trying to get me to give up start licking that boot? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Biden is better than a fascist. Seriously, what's the point of your comment? Are you trying to get me to give up start licking that boot? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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You just want to shoot people. You want people to die due to fascism. So that you can LARP as a revolutionary soldier. Listen if a violent revolution was going to be successful. Liberal democracy would have turned the USA into socialism by now. If you're going to start a revolution, you have to make sure you have more than 50% of the population on your side, at a minimum. The more population on your side the less death will occur. If more than 50% of the population agrees with you, democracy will work just fine. No need to murder bone. Unless you want to. In which case none of this conversation makes any difference. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Yes, do all of that! And vote! Voting is pretty easy compared to the other things on that list. Do what you can. Do all of them if you can. I don't like the Democrats. I don't like saying that we should support the Democrats. But the Democrats are right now the least fascist of the two parties that we have to pick between. I am acting smug, because it appears to me this group has some whiny babies who can't vote. Seriously, how can you fight fascists in the street and then just not vote? I think voting would be really easy compared to fighting fascists. Convincing cucked liberals to vote for Biden is a nice baby step for them. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Okay if you believe all that then shut up. Die quietly and let everyone else die fighting. All you're doing is spread doomer bullshit that isn't helping anyone. If you want to stop being miserable. Join the fight! by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

mod Banned deaf_fish @lemm.ee from the community Labour

reason: Wrecker.

expires: 2 years ago

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Wow, this whole post is psy op. Vote Biden people! The only other option will be a fascist or fascist enabler. I don't like it anymore than you do. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: No.

I DM'd db0 before posting this, but didn't give them the substance of the post. Without knowing all that was going on, they approved me, but if after reading this they decide to remove it, I understand.

Hey, Fediverse.

I've been modding !news@lemmy.world, !politicalmemes@lemmy.world, !movies@lemmy.world, !games@lemmy.world, !gaming@lemmy.world and others for a while now. I've been the subject of many posts on this very community in fact. Usually, the people here agree with my decisions, and I appreciate all feedback, good or bad.

Well, as you know doubt know (and if you don't, go through my comment history), I've tried my best to stay out of the whole "Lemmy.world admin/mod" thing going on.

I didn't post anything other than facts, and I didn't pick sides. This is because on a personal level, Staments and Jordan Lund are friends of mine. I have talked to them on multiple occasions about many things not fedi-related.

When the whole thing came out from the write-up Stamets did here, I followed it, but kept to myself. Friends shouldn't pick favorites. I still won't speak my mind on that topic.

I WILL, however, speak towards how the admins handled it.

They blatantly said that they didn't like the behavior being pointed out to be the face of lemmy.world. They also took minimum action. For 2 weeks.

What became of that? After 2 weeks, the punted it to the moderation team. Me, and @Tenthrow@lemmy.world .

I can't speak for Tenthrow, but I was given no notice of this decision. During the 2 weeks of silence, they messaged me a total of 1 time to remind me that as the top moderator of news, I had the power to remove Jordan from the moderation staff.

Now, let me say this: the whole time he moderated news, I only had a single complaint about his activity. I banned him for 2 days for that.

Back to the topic at hand. Fast forward to a couple days ago, and I get a few messages about an update in the lemmy world announcement community.

They had decided to remove top mod from Jordan on all communities without talking to the mods. They then said "The new top mods can now take appropriate actions". This means that I became the top moderator of !thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world with no notice (a failing on the platform, imo - why couldn't they notify us when we are added as a mod?). I decided to demoderate Jordan in the communities we are in together, as I just am tired of all the drama. I hope he understands that.

Again, I had no reason to remove him from the mod team in my communities, but for them to pass the buck to me, without any kind of heads-up? That was too much. Us mods do a lot of shit. We take a TON of shit. We're human, and we make mistakes. All we ask is that the admins keep their shit in their toilet, and off our plate.

This isn't the first time the admin team has made...questionable decisions. A while back they told everybody that they were not allowing people to remove alternative views. This logically included some stupid shit like flat-earth views. They never changed that rule, but never touched on the topic again.

Because of this, I have decided that while Lemmy and the fediverse as a whole is a worthy experiment, I have reached the end of my time here.

I will say that the people on the admin staff and I are friendly, mostly. There's the odd person that calls me some weird shit, but I'm a weird guy. Overall, I've had positive interactions with them, but they often forget that moderators deal with hundreds to thousands of reports a day (on some days, obviously), keeping the platform civil and clean for them, at no cost.

My final day will be 20 October, 2025. After that, I will leave the account active, but won't be checking on it.

I wish everybody reading this (and those that haven't) the best here, and I hope it can be built into something that is better than where we came from. I just don't have the energy to take hits from both sides anymore.

I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn't see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed

edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn't realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community's rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual

The reasons for removal

The post it self: Not an X link, and the post had the video's description to inform on the topic. The YT Channel in question. The video in question.

When I deleted my lemmy.world account I also deleted the original Jordan post. However, I am a data hoarding fuckhead.

I've been seeing Jordan Lunds name on YePowerTrippingBastards for ages but I'll be honest? I didn't really read any of the posts. To those who know me, I generally stay within the meme area or over in my Star Trek corner getting angry over dumb shit. I am a known asshole and plenty of people do not like me so when it comes to general threads talking about people, I don't often care. But then I started seeing his name pop up as a reason to not go to either Lemmy.world or Lemmy as a whole because the moderation here was so extreme. Now I've done deep dives in the past where I drew up a metric ton of evidence against Startrek.Website and ValueSubtracted/Corgana for actively abusing their users, harassing people across multiple websites, driving misinformation and lying/gaslighting about everything under the sun. Check this first post or this post as examples of both of them being horrible people but also of the type of shit that I do.

So when I saw these accusations I figured let's look into it. The problem was that a significant portion of posts about Jordan are really heavily biased. All of them are from people who had active interactions with him and had a "dog in the fight". Me? The only times I've ever talked to him have been in passing, casual conversation either in lemmy comments or on Discord servers. I have probably had comments removed from /c/world and /c/news in the past, I vaguely recall that happening, but I also remember being fine with it. I get heated so whatever.

Every post and comment that I saw on here were from people who were worked up. Either he had pissed them off or vice versa or both. This does not mean that the posts aren't based in reality or a lie. But it does mean that it is easier for someone to dismiss as just being trolls, something that I have actually seen happen with concerns from this community in the past. Not particularly for Jordan (although, yes, for Jordan) but just in general. Whether that be from other users, other mods or other admins the reaction can be the same. But I have no such connection. So let me lay out a variety of behaviors that not only demonstrate that Jordan is unfit to moderate any community, but that he's a danger not just to the communities he moderates, not just lemmy.world, but the entirety of Lemmy as a whole. This man is doing generational damage to Lemmy that I've not seen any other user do.

Before I kick all this off, I just want to say that I have only been looking into this for about 6-7 hours. This is by no means comprehensive. There are going to be things left out because I'm simply not going to be aware of all of it. If you'd like to add more context or clarification, please be calm and clear about it and add any evidence to the comment section. Also want to say that I don't want to type Jordan out constantly so I'm just going to say JL. Lemmy.world is also going to be shortened to LW. A few others might pop up. I'm just fucking lazy.

The job of a moderator is to apply the rules in an unbiased fashion. To read the rules, interpret them if needed and then carry them out. Personal influence is not supposed to be a part of it. You're supposed to treat it like a position of authority and respect, to respect the position and not abuse it. Now, I am 100% guilty of this in the past (Search my name on here) but it's also one of the reasons why I stepped down as a mod of the majority of communities and why the few ones I still have are treated far more lightly. I turned into what I hate and that's completely on me. I realized I was turning into a terrible person and left. Jordan has not had this realization despite numerous people pointing this out to him. Instead he will say stuff like:

or other things like:

or ones like this:

Now, let's temporarily ignore the fact that he went into YPTP to actively antagonize and harass multiple users, we'll get back to that, just look alone at what this behavior is saying. He's saying that if you don't antagonize him then he won't antagonize you. That it is "fair fucking game" to increase harassment of a user if one harasses him. This is a repugnant and troll-like mindset at the best of times but in the hands of a moderator it is genuinely dangerous. Those two comments alone call into question every single removal or moderator action he has ever taken. He has demonstrated an inability to remain unbiased. That's all those comments are saying but they say an enormous amount.

But let us take a look at some of the actions he has taken, shall we?

A few months ago a Canadian used a Canadian term in referencing Canadian politics and a Canadian Government. Jordan Lund, an American, misunderstood what was being said. Instead of asking for clarification, the post was instantly removed with the logic of "Misinformation". Now, as a Canadian, the idea of an American telling a Canadian that they're misinformed about their own government isn't one that we as Canadians are typically fond of. Even less so when JL decided to double down and ignore anyone telling he was wrong. This is a running trend. Jordan is routinely faced with the real facts of the matter and not what he believes and every time he just leaves the conversation. When faced with irrevocable proof that he is wrong on any community that he is not a moderator of, he disengages. This is another demonstrable behavior that questions his abilities as a moderator. He is unwilling (or incapable) of admitting on being wrong.

"But Stamets, that's just one example!" Okay. Then how about months later when questioned on the literal exact same moment? @Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com called him out and again he dodged any responsibility. He ignored anyone proving him wrong and doubled down on his false understanding of reality. Not only is this woeful behavior for a mod but he's also the moderator of /c/World. With that behavior he has now categorically proven that /c/World is American-Centric to the point of rejecting any wording that isn't done in a way understandable by an ignorant American. Another moment that calls into question whether or not Jordan is capable of being impartial would be removing someones comment so they could continue the exact same argument with someone else.

But I did mention earlier that we'd get back to this so let us. Jordan has demonstrated time and time again that he looks for a fight, actively enjoys trolling, and wants to be as antagonistic as humanly possible. There are times he's summoned into YPTB with an @ but other times he isn't. Honestly I don't want to go through each and everyone of these showing that this is shitty, troll-like and antagonistic behavior. You should be able to tell yourself. The fact that the mod is going in and doubling down on being a dick is obscene. Clarifying the decision? Maybe. But actively fanning the flames and acting like twerp is pathetic and disqualifies him from the position of a mod of any community, nevermind flagship communites on lemmy.world. Here's another example of an entire thread showing he isn't fit. If you want more just look at his profile or search his name on basically any community.

• This entire thread

Next we shall focus on him gaslighting and lying to or about everyone. Including the Admins of LW.

A few days ago, Jordan accused someone of being transphobic, homophobic, violent and racist on YePowerTrippingBastards. Both the person themselves as well as another user looked into those accusations. There were no demonstrations of that behavior. The user, @Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com, gave a pretty detailed response of how Jordan was lying and unfit for the job. I highly recommend checking that out for yourself. Jordan did not respond but Ganbat also said they were done talking to Jordan anyway. @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone also looked into the accusations and couldn't find anything but could actually find things removed that were actively defending trans people. If anything, Ganbat was the dead opposite of transphobic. Norah being the one to point this out is also important as she's trans. Jordans instant response was to gaslight and deflect blame saying he was talking about someone else, not Ganbat. Odd that he did not say this to Ganbat. But this is something that was also instantly proven wrong as he directly referenced Ganbat. Norah also mentioned something that I'll get into in a moment. Jordan did not respond. But just to recap here, a cis white male just tried to weaponize transphobia against someone who was not transphobic for the sake of closing an argument and then tried to gaslight a trans woman about whether or not he just did that. Again, this discounts him from ever holding a position as a moderator.

Months ago on /c/World, Jordan Lund was talking about the media fact checking bot. He claimed that he would be removed if he removed the bot. That the moderators serve at pleasure of the Admins and they would just replace him. This is directly at odds with an Admin then immediately saying that it wasn't true.

This also demonstrates that he is not willing to take any criticism or pushback at all on things that he agrees with and would rather push that blame onto someone else to avoid it himself. Now how do I know he was actively for this? Because in the Discord channel when the bot was made and announced, Jordan was literally the first person to respond and say that he was down with this. Something I verified from two different sources and by seeing it with my own eyes.

Now, let us focus on something in that Discord server.

There have been comments floating about with screenshots saying that Jordan has access to a bot that has admin abilities. I can confirm this. I do not know whether he still has access to it but he did for at least a year. How do I know this? Because I did as well. When I originally ported over to LW, I had my own personal stalker who was following me around and harassing me. An admin who is no longer active gave me access to the bot to deal with this person. I cannot speak to the full abilities of the bot, especially as the development of the bot has switched to another admin/mod who I'm not friends with. But the bot when I had it was capable of banning a user (permanently or for a period of time) from the entirety of Lemmy.World as well as removing posts. This bot was designed specifically for spam and CSAM as we're talking like a year and a half to two years ago. CSAM was still being slammed in waves and anti-lemmy spam from reddit was still coming in strong. Access to the bot was extremely limited and only given to users that were trusted to not abuse the bot and only use it for spam, CSAM or in the case of two people, harassment. I was one of those two people. Want to guess who the other was?

I did not pay much attention to the usage of the bot. I did not pay much attention to the discord server in general. But I can say that I saw Jordan use it at least once for a harassing user. I have no idea whether or not that was valid as I wasn't looking into it. At the time he was just a dude in the server who I occasionally chatted with. I knew nothing about him. But then again I'm an oblivious fool who didn't even know PugJesus existed until really recently. At the time I had no second thoughts about the usage of it. I only used it a handful of times, less than 5. Either for accounts that were self-admitted alts of my stalker or of CSAM when admins were not available. Because of that I didn't pay a ton of attention to the channel where the bot was being used but the most active user of the bot that I saw during that time was Jordan Lund.

All of this so far has just been actions of his that demonstrate that he's not fit. Now let's talk about who he is and let us start with him being a racist. This is a news article about him. The whole thing is essentially about how he as a white man is surprised to find out there are negative feelings about Portland. Negative feelings about Portland and Oregon being extremely white and racist.

Still, Lund said he doesn’t see much racism in his day-to-day life. He’s certainly never experienced it.

Right.

"I think Portland had a variety of problems. Race is definitely one of them, yes. But I don't know that we could classify it as the most important problem. if you look at the homeless situation, there's definitely an income inequality problem, a mental health problem. there are a whole lot of more pressing problems besides race."

Jordan? A lot of those are based on race. But this is just me nitpicking. The real problem is this.

And despite his politics, he struggles to find sympathy or kinship with the Black Lives Matter marchers who occasionally disrupt his commute home to protest police violence. "I do pay attention to them. I think primarily as somebody who works in downtown we tend to be aware of things like that more because of the disruption it causes. I don't think the disruption they do is particularly productive. It takes people who would ordinarily be on their side and go, why are they doing this to us? The Portland Police didn't shoot anybody recently that I’m aware of. If they want to be productive in their protests, they should go to where these events are happening."

This man was just met with the fact that his place is known for being racist and xenophobic and his first instinctual response was "Go protest elsewhere." Yeah... the call is coming from inside of the house Jordan. You're the racist that people are constantly talking about. Racism isn't just burning a cross. It's not just shooting up a black church. It can be quiet and insidious and you are actively helping further that by dismissing a right to protest so you can get somewhere faster. Moreover, a protest to make people aware of a problem with racism. A problem you only became aware of when someone hit you in the face with it because you keep ignoring it around you like with these protests. And if you're worried I'm taking him out of context with that article? I'm not. He reiterated it here in his own words.

Now let's move onto the fact that he's transphobic as fuck. He went to /c/Transgender and posted a Matt Walsh video. Then there's the whole thing earlier about him claiming someone else was transphobic who wasn't. Not only is that extremely offensive to the dude you claimed it of but also extremely offensive to every trans person in existence for you to claim that you know better than someone else. He's using the trans community for his own benefit but has not demonstrated anything that I've seen of support of that community. Just active hostility. Check his modlog for the record. There are some other interesting things in there like him stalking someone and spamming the same comment over and over again.

Next up? Zionism. He has repeatedly removed posts that are critical of Israel or pro-Palestinian and that's fairly well documented. Again, just searching his name and Zionist or anything on any community here gives you more than enough to look at. You do have to filter through it a bit because a lot of people are, justifiably, pissed as hell but it does mean that the language of the comments can seem inflammatory and trolling him. Something that he has leaned into quite heavily and used as a shield. But these two posts stand out to me as particularly obscene. One such example is his patented refusal to ever address proof to the contrary. He listed a source as being antisemitic while using the justification of a Zionist source. When given a litany of Israel critical cartoons but none that are actively antisemitic, he refused to engage. Honestly the entire post also demonstrates a shocking amount of logic that isn't outright Zionist but dancing around the edges and leaving the outline of one. Especially when he says that he'll allow the post of the slain journalist to be posted when he "starts writing for a reputable news source again. Of course when pressed, he gaslit again saying that it wasn't the person he was talking about when it clearly was.

Conclusion

The man is a genuine danger to Lemmy.world. I know plenty of people who refuse to engage with the communities on the instance as a whole because they do not trust the mods here. When questioned why it always ends up being Jordan or someone like FlyingSquid who was basically Jordan 2.0. There was so much shit happening behind the scenes with that dude with him actively torpedoing friendships left right and center. He started to crash out hard because no one was supporting him anymore. Yet people still support Jordan and I have no idea why. My only assumption is just his state of health. He's not in the best shape and the only thing I can think is that no one wanted to rock the boat with him to add extra stress on him going through something massive but doing that is also an enormous disservice to the people on Lemmy. And I do mean Lemmy as his behavior makes us all look bad. I've tried to get someone recently on reddit to move to Lemmy and their argument was that they will not because the mods here are worse than the mods on reddit. When I asked for an example, they linked me to Jordan. I even found a comment out in the wild saying to not join Lemmy because of Jordan and when I contacted them to ask if I could add their comment to this post they ended up deleting it and their whole account.

Jordan is incapable of sustaining impartiality, is incapable of accepting fault, is incapable of accepting any viewpoint different than his own, is incapable of learning anything new, is racist, is transphobic, supports Zionism and abuses his position at the drop of a hat. He does not meet the basic qualifications of a reddit moderator, never mind ones of a Lemmy user. The fact that he is the face of multiple enormous communities while routinely doing these things means that the entirety of Lemmy.world looks bad. But because Lemmy.world is also one of the biggest instances and one that often a lot of people end up falling to first, he also ends up being the face of All of Lemmy Moderation.

I'm actively calling for him to be removed from any and all moderator positions. He has proven time and time again for months that he is not capable of holding these positions in a way that treats the platform, the users and even himself with respect. Also going to say here and now that I'm seriously considering leaving Lemmy.world and going elsewhere and this is playing a big part in that. I post so much because I like adding to a community I enjoy being a part of. A community that I can be proud to be a part of.

I don't have much in the run of pride right now.___

What Happened?

Jordan has been abusing his position as a moderator and, likely, as a community team member for months. Plenty of people have made posts about it. I made one myself which detailed a bunch of the things that he did.. However, do note that this is a reupload of the text of that post. To look at the comments, you'd have to click this link. All my comments and the post itself are deleted. Why? Explained at the bottom. Two admins from Lemmy.world replied to that post and detailed that they both did not want Jordan as the face of Lemmy.world as well as saying two things

1. They had been in talks for days prior to my post about Jordans behavior

2. That they had warned Jordan in the past about one particular behavior involving misinformation about a user and Canadian political terms.

In that post, Jordan came to his own defense. During that, he stipulated that he did nothing wrong with the misinformation situation. In doing so he demonstrated either that the admins never did warn him or that he did not internalize/care about the warning and rejected it out of hand. He was doubling down on the same behavior and justifying it.

In the same post, MrKaplan (one of the LW Admins) said that they were in talks about Jordan but nothing was said publicly. After about a week, I left and moved over to dbzero while leaving my LW account up to direct towards dbzer0. I made a goodbye to LW post as well as updating the YPTB post.

Not long after I made that, a post was made to the Lemmy.world announcements community saying that the admins were aware of Jordans behavior and were discussing it as well as giving some truly handwavy, handwringy justifications that made little to no sense as to why they couldn't remove Jordan.

The Update

Last night, an update was applied to that LW Announcement post. They had changed the listing of mods so that Jordan was no longer the top mod of any community and gave him a warning. A warning. We already had public demonstrations that he did not heed those warnings and was actively doubling down, saying he was correct. They did a thing they were aware he would ignore. That is equivalent to inaction. The bullet went through the ghost when you shot at it? Well, clearly time to shoot a second time!

To make things worse, when they changed who was top mod on the communities, they didn't warn them. Didn't warn one of them at least. @JonsJava@lemmy.world. Jons commented saying that he wasn't notified of this decision and the only warning he was given was days prior about the fact that as top mod he could remove Jordan if he wanted to. So to insulate themselves from having to make an actual decision, the admins instead shifted the order of the modteam and forced two users to become complicit in the situation in ways they weren't. While Jons was head mod of Jordan over on /c/News, he wasn't on another community. It seems like Jons was also staying out of the Jordan situation specifically to let the Admins make a decision which they punted back into his court.

This doesn't even make sense to me. On one hand they're doing something by taking him off of the modlist as top mod so clearly they're willing to do something. But on the other hand they're not willing to do a single thing of consequence. They claim that they're handcuffed by rules that they created yet their own listed rules openly demonstrate that Jordan can be removed. They have the head of lemmy.world saying that he doesn't want Jordan to be the face of the instance yet they're not exactly doing much about it.

I deleted my lemmy.world account last night and all associated posts. This weird behavior of protecting Jordan and ignoring behavior that goes against what they explicitly say and then throwing other moderators under the bus is not exactly a great look. One I want exactly zero part in.

You can sit there and say I wanna play investigative reporter or that I'm an attention whore or whatever else. I don't really care. I've been called worse by better people. But people keep pointing out the fact that I'm kinda recognizable on lemmy and I just got zero interest in backing the Lemmy equivalent of Reddit when I left reddit partially due to this wishy washy horseshit.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/36752354

Got a 7 day ban on !memes@lemmy.ml after responding to this very abusive commenter with this image:

I reported their abusive comments somewhat expecting to get banned as well. It came as a shock to me when i saw my ban but this commenter got off scot-free. They didn't even so much as get a single abusive comment removed.

This is the most blatant double standard I've encountered on that instance.

Link to the thread: https://lemmy.world/comment/19699062

Not that I particularly care I just find it funny that I can't reply to:

you’re not Superman

Speak for yourself!

Clark Kent

With a relevant (to superman) and harmless enough joke about how the FBI is claiming Charlie Kirk is The Man Of Steel AKA Superman, and how I don't believe that he actually was Superman. I mean I didn't even celebrate it, I just don't believe the claim.

But they left up all the other comments detailing why I don't believe the FBI and frankly I'm baffled.