vonbaronhans

I'm unsure. It's been a while since I tried. I'll do some troubleshooting when I get a moment.

I've been running a jellyfin server for a while now but barely use it. For some reason I can't get other devices on my local network to be able to sign into it. One out of ten times it'll work, but the other nine times it just doesn't and says it can't connect. I dunno. Probably a me problem.

I mean go for it I guess.

Nah, it would have to be the Fox News style full court press deception to have the intended effect.

Most people would be convinced something is true if a huge swathe of people they trust say it's true. (Myself included. I just try my best to vet trustworthy sources to begin with.)

Fox News accomplishes this by getting you to distrust all other sources and then serve you a variety of "charismatic personalities" all parroting the same propaganda. This is how they cultivate false consensus.

I don't think I disagree with any individual point you're making. But I'm still getting the sense that we're focusing on what won't work rather than what possibly could work. It seems like you're opposed to bottom up approaches (worker coops, etc, in a market system) and also top down approaches to regulate the edge cases.

I don't have the time to really sit and think through possibilities, but I'll simply say I think a current failure to think how socialism could work in a market economy does not necessarily rule out the possibility.

I appreciate the conversation regardless. You've given me a good few things to chew on.

I would imagine every crew has a wide range of ages already. They're not all gonna retire at the same time. Plus, whatever happens to the business would be a democratic decision by all workers, however they choose to structure that democratic process.

If you think that sort of process would fail, I'm not sure why you would support socialism at all.

That's not a judgment on you, to be clear. I'm relatively new to socialism, at least in terms of thinking of it in practical terms. Maybe there's a role for a bigger regulatory body to play in that system to ensure capital continues to be owned by the people who work with that capital (or owned by the broader community in which it resides).

I don't understand. Why couldn't the teams that make the machines, the crews that make the steel, all the way down, all be worker owned companies in a market economy?

I was under the impression that you can still have a market economy under socialism. That is, you can have workers own the means of production while still buying and selling goods through fairly normal means.

But maybe I'm misunderstanding?

^ this.

They did replace "desu" with DEATH, but blurb is right about the rest.

Nah fuck that.

We need disaffected voters. Progressives will actually get them motivated. I don't give a shit about demographics. Get a progressive, any progressive, up there.

It sure fuckin is, bud!

Correlations that hold while controlling or holding constant other variables do contribute to the likelihood of causation, though.

That's literally how scientific statistics are done.