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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Undertale taught me how to be evil in RPGs. Without giving you spoilers: it puts that tendency of players of "gotta to see it all!" against their morality.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

I noticed it's easier to shift back to the "pink döner" first perception if you hide the top half of the pic.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

I think this is a good starting point. If Collective Shout can pressure MC/Visa to do it, a bigger group can pressure MC/Visa to not do it.

However, we (people in general) should not fool ourselves that this war is over, or that this is the only thing we should be aiming for. Ultimately, the end goal should be to curtail all this pseudo-legislative power payment processors have; laws, competition, change in the economic system, etc.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To add to that: my ship-of-Theseus computer is probably older than quite a few adult Lemmy users.

All current pieces are relatively new, as last year I felt like splurging and had money to do so. Except the hard disk - it's a few years old, I think.

I remember when I installed the predecessor of my current GPU. I put the computer on the floor, and my nephew was crawling in the way, curious. Nowadays my nephew has a stubby beard, and he's taller than me.

My old case was even older. It had a hole, where I glued cardboard. That hole used to hold a 3½ floppy disk drive. It saw the predecessor of that GPU I mentioned above, that I bought in 2004.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

I'm diabetic, you insensitive clod!!one!!!eleven

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Is there some story behind PPB? As in, why do you guys like that pic so much?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The missing piece is that hiding bad news should be harder. For example, if you're a researcher and all you claim from your research are the good news, people (and the ideal Bayesian agent) should immediately suspect "maybe they're hiding the bad news".

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hyde says that the problem is that, although scientific facts are taught at school, the facts "about" science are not taught well enough.

Bingo. They do a poor job teaching people:

  • That failures are not only expected, but welcome; they'll guide future successes.
  • That conflicts of interest do happen, and peer reviewing is a way to address them.
  • That the current leading theory on something is simply the current best explanation, not some immutable truth.
  • That science doesn't say "trust me"; it shows you the data, and asks you to find a better way to explain it.

We (people all around the world, I think?) also do a poor job at teaching ourselves basic rationality:

  • That you should get suspicious of any institution or group that only shows the good parts - they're likely hiding shit.
  • Why "trust me" is an insult towards the hearer's intelligence.
  • Why people shouldn't vomit certainty on things they cannot reliably know.
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ok have you personally taken responsibility for the fact that your media consumption has made your worldview delusional?

This is a loaded question on the same level as "did you stop beating your wife? Yes or no?".

But let's bite: yes.

I come from a scientific background. And you don't get to keep delusions about something when reality is making you interact with that thing over and over, regardless of the origin of said delusions. You face them, as soon as you step into the uni. And one of the things I often talk with people is how science is misrepresented in media, specially after that clown of the former president of my country started babbling about Ivermectin*.

And, due to the nature of the content of this community, I expect at least some of the other people in this comm to be in the same situation as me - to be from a scientific background (or even scientists themselves) and to try to spread awareness on how media misrepresents science, the scientific method, and scientists.

So your "all of you"? Bullshit.

Unless you're decontextualising the whole thing to talk about media-based delusions in general, even if the context screams "regarding science".

(Or perhaps you'll try to change goalposts and say something like "ackshyually, taking responsibility is something else lol lmao.)

Nope? Ok then I am not making an assumption,

Even if your assumption was true (it is not), it would be still an assumption. You're still vomiting certainty about something you cannot reliably know, such as what all individuals in a whole group of people do or don't.

I am stating human nature

I think that both of us know that you're bullshitting.

*just to point out another assumption you're voicing in your comment: "It is why we have a racist reality tv show actor as president". Why do you think everybody here is American?


EDIT: note this topic itself is already a way to take responsibility for all the crap media shows dressed as science. For a start:

what are LadyButterfly, Admetus, klemptor and me doing here, if not highlighting that media grossly oversimplifies Physics?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

The social media company last week denied the allegations, calling them 'politically motivated.'

"We don't want some rogue fascists from the outside to meddle in our elections" is politically motivated, and there's nothing wrong with it.

So congrats for the Apartheid-born moron and his drones: you're correct and wrong at the same time.

 

I'm sharing this mostly as a historical curiosity; Schleicher was genial, but the book is a century and half old, science marches on, so it isn't exactly good source material. Still an enjoyable read if you like Historical Linguistics, as it was one of the first successful attempts to reconstruct a language based on indirect output from its child languages.

 

Link for the Science research article. The observation that societies without access to softer food kind of avoided labiodentals is old, from 1985, but the research is recent-ish (2019).

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by lvxferre@mander.xyz to c/linguistics@mander.xyz
 

Même texte en français ici. I'll copypaste the English version here in case of paywall.

Accents are one of the cherished hallmarks of cultural diversity.

Why AI software ‘softening’ accents is problematic

Published 2024/Jan/11
by Grégory Miras, Professeur des Universités en didactique des langues, Université de Lorraine

“Why isn’t it a beautiful thing?” a puzzled Sharath Keshava Narayana asked of his AI device masking accents.

Produced by his company, Sanas, the recent technology seeks to “soften” the accents of call centre workers in real-time to allegedly shield them from bias and discrimination. It has sparked widespread interest both in the English-speaking and French-speaking world since it was launched in September 2022.

Far from everyone is convinced of the software’s anti-racist credentials, however. Rather, critics contend it plunges us into a contemporary dystopia where technology is used to erase individuals’ differences, identity markers and cultures.

To understand them, we could do worse than reviewing what constitutes an accent in the first place. How can they be suppressed? And in what ways does ironing them out bends far more than sound waves?

How artificial intelligence can silence an accent

“Accents” can be defined, among others, as a set of oral clues (vowels, consonants, intonation, etc.) that contribute to the more or less conscious elaboration of hypotheses on the identity of individuals (e.g. geographically or socially). An accent can be described as regional or foreign according to different narratives.

With start-up technologies typically akin to black boxes, we have little information about the tools deployed by Sanas to standardise our way of speaking. However, we know most methods aim to at least partially transform the structure of the sound wave in order to bring certain acoustic cues closer to a perceptive criteria. The technology tweaks vowels, consonants along with parameters such as rhythm, intonation or accentuation. At the same time, the technology will be looking to safeguard as many vocal cues as possible to allow for the recognition of the original speaker’s voice, such as with voice cloning, a process that can result in deepfake vocal scams. These technologies make it possible to dissociate what is speech-related from what is voice-related.

The automatic and real-time processing of speech poses technological difficulties, the main one being the quality of the sound signal to be processed. Software developers have succeeded in overcoming them by basing themselves on deep learning, neural networks, as well as large data bases of speech audio files, which make it possible to better manage the uncertainties in the signal.

In the case of foreign languages, Sylvain Detey, Lionel Fontan and Thomas Pellegrini identify some of the issues inherent in the development of these technologies, including that of which standard to use for comparison, or the role that speech audio files can have in determining them.

The myth of the neutral accent

But accent identification is not limited to acoustics alone. Donald L. Rubin has shown that listeners can recreate the impression of a perceived accent simply by associating faces of supposedly different origins with speech. In fact, absent these other cues, speakers are not so good at recognising accents that they do not regularly hear or that they might stereotypically picture, such as German, which many associate with “aggressive” consonants.

The wishful desire to iron out accents to combat prejudice raises the question of what a “neutral” accent is. Rosina Lippi-Green points out that the ideology of the standard language - the idea that there is a way of expressing oneself that is not marked - holds sway over much of society but has no basis in fact. Vijay Ramjattan further links recent collossal efforts to develop accent “reduction” and “suppression” tools with the neoliberal model, under which people are assigned skills and attributes on which they depend. Recent capitalism perceives language as a skill, and therefore the “wrong accent” is said to lead to reduced opportunities.

Intelligibility thus becomes a pretext for blaming individuals for their lack of skills in tasks requiring oral communication according to Janin Roessel. Rather than forcing individuals with “an accent to reduce it”, researchers such as Munro and Derwing have shown that it is possible to train individuals to adapt their aural abilities to phonological variation. What’s more, it’s not up to individuals to change, but for public policies to better protect those who are discriminated against on the basis of their accent - accentism.

Delete or keep, the chicken or the egg?

In the field of sociology, Wayne Brekhus calls on us to pay specific attention to the invisible, weighing up what isn’t marked as much as what is, the “lack of accent” as well as its reverse. This leads us to reconsider the power relations that exist between individuals and the way in which we homogenise the marked: the one who has (according to others) an accent.

So we are led to Catherine Pascal’s question of how emerging technologies can hone our roles as “citizens” rather than “machines”. To “remove an accent” is to value a dominant type of “accent” while neglecting the fact that other co-factors will participate in the perception of this accent as well as the emergence of discrimination. “Removing the accent” does not remove discrimination. On the contrary, the accent gives voice to identity, thus participating in the phenomena of humanisation, group membership and even empathy: the accent is a channel for otherness.

If technologies such AI and deep learning offers us untapped possibilities, they can also lead to a dystopia where dehumanisation overshadows priorities such as the common good or diversity, as spelt out in the UNESCO Universal Declaration on Cultural Diversity. Rather than hiding them, it seems necessary to make recruiters aware of how accents can contribute to customer satisfaction and for politicians to take up this issue.

Research projects such as PROSOPHON at the University of Lorraine (France), which bring together researchers in applied linguistics and work psychology, are aimed at making recruiters more aware of their responsibilities in terms of biais awareness, but also at empowering job applicants “with an accent”. By asking the question “Why isn’t this a beautiful thing?”, companies like SANAS remind us why technologies based on internalized oppressions don’t make people happy at work.

 

Source.

Alt-text: «God was like, "Let there be light," and there was light.»

 

Small bit of info: Charles III still speaks RP, but the prince William (heir to the throne) already shifted to SSBE. Geoffrey Lindsey has a rather good video on that.

 
 

Links to the community:

The community is open for everyone regardless of previous knowledge on the field. Feel free to ask or share stuff about languages and dialects, how they work (grammar, phonology, etc.), where they're from, how people use them, or more general stuff about human linguistic communication.

And the rules are fairly simple. They boil down to 1) stay on-topic, 2) source it when reasonable, 3) avoid pseudoscience.

Have fun!

 

This is a rather long study, from the Oxford Studies in Ancient Documents. Its general content should be clear by the title, and it focuses on three "chunks" of the former Roman empire: Maghreb and Iberia, Gallia and Germania, and the British Isles.

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Linguistics (mander.xyz)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by lvxferre@mander.xyz to c/new_communities@mander.xyz
 

I've recreated a Linguistics community here in mander.xyz. As the sidebar says, it's for everyone, regardless of previous knowledge over the field, so even if you're a layperson feel free to drop by.

Here's the link: !linguistics@mander.xyz

In case that you're in a Kbin/Mbin instance and the above doesn't work, try /m/linguistics@mander.xyz instead.

 

Further info: the linguist in question is Lynn S. Eekhof, and she has quite a few publications about the topic, worth IMO reading.

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