These just read like they belong in a game of Jeopardy
boonhet
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It's... More of an art than a science.
It's just a fairly common thing people say online about Americans. The comment in question says the exact same thing about Europeans AND specifies they're an American. Classic turnabout IMO.
Of course if you're not terminally online you might just not get the reference
I at one point looked up the price of a new Audi E-Tron battery and it was 37k. Dealer markup is part of it for sure, but the battery has to be pretty expensive to begin with. The E-Tron was more expensive than the bigger and better equipped Q7 too IIRC but I could be wrong.
Okay, so let me preface this by saying that I'm not necessarily arguing but just doing the math for my own country just because it's fun. It's also not super precise.
If you drive a lot, you'd be buying diesel not petrol. Usually. But that's just me nitpicking, I assume you mean ICEs in general.
It depends on your region too. In some, EVs are so much cheaper to run it's not funny, in some they're comparable.
In my country, if you choose the correct power company for home electricity, a public charger during daytime is 0.333€/kWh. If you use a cheaper power company at home, you pay 0.37€/kWh at the biggest chain of public chargers. This of course assumes you use the cheaper, <=100 kW chargers. Faster ones are more expensive so we'll just pretend they don't exist. Charging at home varies from 0.05 to 5€/kWh if you have a variable rate package or if you lock yourself in to a price it's probably around 0.15 if you locked in a few years ago for a long period, or 0.2 if you lock in now. This is including the transmission fees and everything.
So let's say bare minimum 0.15 unless you want to time it by hour, and maximum 0.33 because most people aren't stupid and unplug their shit when the prices skyrocket for an hour or 2, so realistically home charging SHOULD always be cheaper than public charging.
An MB EQE sedan will do roughly 20 kWh/100km driving on a highway at 120km/h with AC and stuff on - normal driving, not super eco, but also not very wasteful. That can be anywhere between 3 euros per 100 km (VERY cheap compared to ICE) and 6.6 EUR per 100 km. Comparable E-Class diesel sedan or wagon will do 4.5-5 l/100km these days at same speeds, so 6€ per 100 km at the fuel price I got last time, 4€ at the best price I can get, or 7 for the worst prices seen this year.
Let's assume you have a great electricity price locked in and you only ever charge at home, and that fuel prices go back up and stay there. This is a 4€ difference in the price for 100 km, in the EV's favor. A huge difference tbh. But the price difference for cheapest EQE and cheapest diesel E-Class is 10k in favor of the diesel. At this price difference, it takes 250k km for the power savings to pay off. A lot of these cars get sold off before the first owner even reaches that mileage.
This math changes significantly with used cars, though. Cheapest BMW i4 I could find is 43k for a 2023. Cheapest diesel 4 series is 40k (and has more kilometers actually). At 3k price difference it takes only 75k km to pay off the difference assuming similar efficiency ratings for both, I cba to look it up. I wanted to do i5 and 5 series, but the i5s are so new they haven't really depreciated yet.
And if you use public chargers exclusively, well, it'll essentially never pay off at current prices. But that could change in the future.
Another thing to consider, though, is that here you're not really getting a "driver's car" with the ICE. Diesels are work horses and inline 4s particularly aren't anything special. The EVs, both the Mercedes and BMW, have significantly more power. You kinda get more for your money there, I was just doing a purely financial comparison, while keeping to German cars because that's pretty much all I drive usually (may be changing this though, I'm eyeing a hybrid Lexus as my stepping stone car between my diesel A6 and whatever EV I'll buy when my finances have recovered from a shitty marriage)
Well, idk about power prices in the US, it's definitely cheaper to fill up than charge in my country. Of course I drive a diesel for the fuel efficiency. Petrol may be a different story.
And if people are blowing massive amounts of money on giant overpriced trucks - well, that's what they want then, and they get more of said giant overpriced truck for the same amount of money by not having 20-40k worth of batteries in it. It's still the consumers (who in this case are idiots) that want large overpriced V8 diesel trucks and telling them otherwise IS the car company trying to tell them what their preferences are.
Do we know yet what the energy loss is?
I think if it's like <= 10%, it's fine. If we're talking about 50%, this is beyond unacceptable.
This article claims 90% efficiency has been achieved for moving vehicles, but it should likely be taken with some grains of salt. On the other hand, with phones it's unimportant on the level of the individual using it, so perhaps the phone wireless chargers aren't particularly optimized and it's possible to do better?
Or you know; trains for long haul freight…
Lovely idea and I'm very much in support of trains, but in a lot of countries the railroad infra just isn't there and can't be built on all routes. In my country, the 2nd, 4th and 6th largest cities by population likely can't be connected by rail. It'd be a popular route for passengers for sure, and likely useful for cargo too given that I've for sure seen plenty of trucks driving between those cities, but there's TWO large areas of wetlands in between. Super simple on a map, just draw a line east to west pretty much, but just isn't happening in real life. Easiest way to take a train is to go through the capital. So 4-5 hours by train vs 1-2.5 hours of driving depending on what route you're doing (actually one of the train routes to the capital is closed too right now, for a number of years already, but it'll be replaced by Rail Baltica eventually at least so that's nice). And that's despite the trains being faster than cars (speaking passenger cars and trains here - I wouldn't know about cargo)
It's not a super long route end to end, but you could save on weight of batteries, which in turns increases maximum weight of cargo, since the total weight is limited. And charging would be a pain for long haul truckers in Europe because of the regulations on driving hours. E.g if because of a charge, your allowed 9 hours of daily driving time ends at midnight, well now you can't start driving again before 9 AM and that's if you haven't used up your weekly allowance of 3 9+3 hour split rests yet - otherwise you'd have to wait 11 hours. I've heard tales of long haul truckers in Europe skipping their piss breaks just so they could make it to a good rest station in time instead of having to stop at a random roadside parking lot. The system sucks in some ways and truckers hate it, but it prevents their employers from coercing them into driving dangerous hours (and "hero" truckers can't willingly do it either).
Well, it sorta makes sense in hindsight, it'd be even longer otherwise + this way you can clear lower obstacles on curves... But holy shit does it look like it shouldn't be possible. I mean they're super heavy, right? Right?
Well that reads as if the Putin part could be a joke. If you remember, it was a common theory online at the time (or was it later?) that Putin has some kind of video on Trump and that's why he's so pro-Russia. As of now I don't think any such video has been released? But I could easily see them joking about Putin having photos or a video of something that happened for real on Jeffy E's island.
Did he die again in the end? I honestly have a memory hole in season 8 and much of season 7, despite having watched the entire show twice (the earlier seasons multiple times before that, but I only did a single rewatch after the whole thing was over)
I also think that PHEVs are great for all the rurals. Especially if they keep the ICE fairly powerful. Just tell people "for your grocery run to town you don't need any fuel, but to get to the next town over you can just hoon the ecoboost. Or fuck it, build a V8 diesel PHEV. Nothing stopping them from doing it, it's not like F series buyers care about excess weight lmao
Everyone's of course free to look however they feel like, but IMO stick figures don't look very healthy, regardless of which gender we're talking about. That doesn't mean I think everyone should be obese of course. That's even worse for you and doesn't look great either. But there's a very wide middle ground from only slightly underweight to technically overweight that looks pretty good on most people. But IMO if you're super skinny, you should try to at least put on SOME muscle mass. Just my opinion of course. I don't have the perfect body either, far from it. Working on improving it, but I don't expect to ever look good enough to not need to be funny if you know what I mean lol
It could very well be, I'm just saying this isn't a smoking gun that Putin necessarily has the photos, but the thing having happened is implied more strongly.
I don't know any more than you do, but that's just how it sounds to me: the thing likely happened, the existence of photos is implied too, but the Putin part could be meant either seriously or jokingly. That part sounds kinda iffy to me.